Sabbath

[srchin23]

one of the creators commands were to keep the 7th day sabbath holy...why don't christians do this??? Isn't breaking one command ,breaking them all??? Then your living in sin?

[valleybldr]

one of the creators commands were to keep the 7th day sabbath holy...why don't christians do this??? Isn't breaking one command ,breaking them all??? Then your living in sin?

Many Christian do and it seems we discuss this every other week so you might want to click a few pages back and review the endless discussions on the matter. Shabbat shalom, todd

[Ethnikos]

one of the creators commands were to keep the 7th day sabbath holy...why don't christians do this??? Isn't breaking one command ,breaking them all??? Then your living in sin?

If you did go back and look at all the previous posts on this forum, concerning the Sabbath, you end up with a difference of opinion concerning; if you were to keep one law, do you have to keep all the laws.
My personal opinion is that the Ten Commandments can stand on their own and can be considered as separate from the Levitical laws that were added later. They are the foundation of the Christian Law.

[BroRog]

one of the creators commands were to keep the 7th day sabbath holy...why don't christians do this??? Isn't breaking one command ,breaking them all??? Then your living in sin?

The commandment is to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. The question is: to which Sabbath day does God refer? Typically, when folks raise this issue on discussion boards, they assume the Sabbath day is a 24 hour period at the end of the week, i.e. Saturday.

Another possibility, which seems more likely, is that the Sabbath day mentioned in the Ten Commandments isn't a day of the week but an age or an era in which the people of God have their rest.

[OldChurchGuy]

one of the creators commands were to keep the 7th day sabbath holy...why don't christians do this??? Isn't breaking one command ,breaking them all??? Then your living in sin?

Here is a link to ponder. While it starts out talking about all the Sabbath laws, it quickly focuses on the Sabbath as a day and how it was transformed by the early church fathers.

Apparently the early leaders of the church felt led to say that the day after the Sabbath was appropriate due to the resurrection. Short of having a time machine so we can go back and interview the apostles plus early church leaders it is unlikely the question will ever be fully resolved.

Sincerely,

OldChurchGuy

http://www.studybibleforum.com/htm_php.php3

[Emanate]

The commandment is to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. The question is: to which Sabbath day does God refer? Typically, when folks raise this issue on discussion boards, they assume the Sabbath day is a 24 hour period at the end of the week, i.e. Saturday.

Another possibility, which seems more likely, is that the Sabbath day mentioned in the Ten Commandments isn't a day of the week but an age or an era in which the people of God have their rest.

That might be true if the word day did not follow the majority of the time.

[valleybldr]

That might be true if the word day did not follow the majority of the time.

If one has a fundamental understanding of the Jewish people and their faith they will know Sabbath basics. The Sabbath was to early Christianity (before the flood of Gentiles) what baseball and apple pie are to America. todd

[BroRog]

That might be true if the word day did not follow the majority of the time.

Hebrews 4:8-9

For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

[Emanate]

Hebrews 4:8-9

For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

ys, it still says day. do you have more evidence that says creation/sabbath is not actual days?

[srchin23]

Yisrayl says that if you don't keep the 7th day sabbath..as COMMANDED......then you have the mark of the beast on you.does anyone here keep the 7th day sabath???

[paradiseinn]

i have questioned this and talked to a couple of friends. they made it out like GOD knows our heart and as long as we keep saturday or sunday holy then its ok. but really come on. this is GODS commanment not mans. i feel that saturday is following that command. but i need help too, so if anybody can give a biblical answer, it would help big time. thanks

[srchin23]

some say soon there is gonna be a national sunday LAW...because things will be so crazy ...that the pope....and other leaders,will say that God is angry and the only way for any peace would be to make a national sunday LAW....and are u gonna follow mans laws...or the creators?.

[srchin23]

what are the do's and dont's of the sabbath?????

[Emanate]

Yisrayl says that if you don't keep the 7th day sabbath..as COMMANDED......then you have the mark of the beast on you.does anyone here keep the 7th day sabath???

There are some of us on here who rest on the seventh day. There are many places where Sabbath is spoken of as a sign. However, I am not sure the NT writers were referring to not keeping the Sabbath as the mark of the beast. I believe they may have been more clear on that issue.

[Richard H]

Yisrayl says that if you don't keep the 7th day sabbath..as COMMANDED......then you have the mark of the beast on you.does anyone here keep the 7th day sabath???

Hi srchin,
I (and others here) keep the Sabbath.

In the Old Testament, we can read:
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exo 31:13

So, the Sabbath is a sign to us and to God, that we understand that it is He who makes us holy.
We now understand that it is Jesus who makes us holy. Not the keeping of the law.

I've heard one teacher, Walter Veith, talk about it as a "seal", but while he is very good at some things like pointing out paganism in the church, perhaps he is not so perfect in some his theology. (But SDA is another topic)

The New Testament does not speak of the Sabbath as the seal, however there are two verses in Revelation which say:
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev 14:12

We see a distinction made between God and Jesus, so the "commandments seem to be the Ten Commandments".

And also this:
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev 22:13,14

Scripture does say that God's saints will be sealed during the tribulation (Rev 7:3), but not tell us what the seal is - rather it tells us about those who receive God's seal.
They do not take the mark and they do not worship the image of the beast. (Rev 20:4)

Keeping the Sabbath is a good thing, but we must do it in the Spirit of the Law and not the letter of the Law.
The Spirit gives life and the letter brings death. In other words it is not about rules and regulations or going "back" to the letter of the law to obtain righteousness throught obeying the Law.
Only Jesus is our righteousness.

As for Yisrayl, no matter how "facinating" he may seem - he is false, so pay him no mind.
Instead read Scripture and let the Holy Spirit of the Lord God Himself, lead you.

Don't think that we are all deluded and Yisrayl really is a prophet.
Jesus warned us and then He even stressed the point "Behold! I have told you in advance."

So put Yisrayl aside as you should with any false teachers or prophets.
There is no gain in listening to such - only ultimate deception.
The thing about the false that makes them so dangerous is they take a portion of the truth and twist it to serve their evil desires.


Seek to please God and Him alone.

Richard