I was not offended, I was just pointing out that God does not see our works as trash or filthy rags. And yes it is the grace of God that saves us. However a person can turn from God as I have shown. So many people think our works mean nothing, this is completely wrong. Let me ask you this question, it was Paul who said we are saved by grace through faith and not of ourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast. My question then is this, Does Paul know that we saved by faith??? Let me assume you answer is yes. So, if Paul knows that we are saved by faith, why does He Say this?
Originally Posted by looking4jesus
Romans 2:4-10 ( KJV ) 4Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Paul says that everyone will be judged by their works and those who did good will get eternal life, those who do not do good do not get eternal life.
So Paul says we are not saved by works and He says we are saved by works, which is it. These two must be reconciled, we cannot have contradiction in the Scriptures. We must look at the context of these verses to determine what Paul is speaking of. So let's look at the fist one where He says we are not saved by works.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ( KJV ) 8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:10-16 ( KJV ) 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
11Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
They, the Ephesians were afar off and outside the covenants of God. Christ brought them near, how? He broke down the partition, having abolished the enmity. what is the enmity? the law of commandments contained in the ordinances. The works that Paul is speaking of here is the works of the law, He is not speaking of good deeds, that is what we were created for. So Paul is saying here like He does else were that by the works of the law no flesh shall be saved.
Now, in contrast to this notice what Paul says in Romans 2, those who in continuance in well doing (good deeds) seek immortality and eternal life. So Paul says that God "will" judge everyone according to their deeds, those who have done good eternal life, those who have done evil, indignation and wrath. Jesus said the same thing.
Matthew 25:31-46 ( KJV ) 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.