Once saved always saved : Amen Praise the Lord

[Thaddaeus]

Which sins of yours or mine were past when Jesus said, "It is finished"?

it is finished is referring to his work that he had do to while here on earth : to me what does it mean to you? that sin was finished. no way just look around dude, sin is still abound, there were many people other than just you and me Brother I think the man of the right of Christ sins were before (past) and our sins are not forgiven til we call upon the Name of the Lord and the Blood is applied so the sins you did before you called upon the name of the Lord would be our past sins ????

[Vhayes]

When you believe your past sins are forgiven.

ALL of your sins are forgiven. They have been since Jesus said, "It is finished" - what would He have meant otherwise?

[Butch5]

Butch, Jesus paid the price for ALL the sins of the world, It isn't about sin any longer, it's about whether or not you accept the gift of salvation.

I Timothy 4
10-For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.

The gift is ineffective if it isn't accepted.

I agree, however sin does still matter. If a preson believes and then lives their life in adultery, they will not be saved. Paul said adulterers will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

[Vhayes]

it is finished is referring to his work that he had do to while here on earth : to me what does it mean to you? that sin was finished. no way just look around dude, sin is still abound

Sin is still in the world and will continue to be but the price for it (eternal separation from God) has been paid in full.
Colossians 2

13-When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14-having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

[Butch5]

ALL of your sins are forgiven. They have been since Jesus said, "It is finished" - what would He have meant otherwise?

Did Jesus say all sins are forgiven? What was finished was the work that God had given Him to do.

[Butch5]

Sin is still in the world and will continue to be but the price for it (eternal separation from God) has been paid in full.
Colossians 2

13-When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14-having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Cancelled all of their trangressions, it doesn't say anyting about transgressions that will be committed in the future.

[Vhayes]

I agree, however sin does still matter. If a preson believes and then lives their life in adultery, they will not be saved. Paul said adulterers will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Actually, I believe they are saved, they will just leave this life a whole lot sooner than they would have otherwise.
I think I already posted scripture to that effect earlier.

[Vhayes]

Did Jesus say all sins are forgiven? What was finished was the work that God had given Him to do.

And what was that work?

[Vhayes]

Cancelled all of their trangressions, it doesn't say anyting about transgressions that will be committed in the future.

They were ALL in the future.

[Butch5]

Actually, I believe they are saved, they will just leave this life a whole lot sooner than they would have otherwise.
I think I already posted scripture to that effect earlier.

OK, if they are saved then live in sin they will not be saved at the judgment where we are actually saved. Paul said adulterers will not enter into the kingdom of heaven

[Butch5]

And what was that work?

He came to preach the gospel of the kingdom

[Butch5]

They were ALL in the future.

No, All of Pauls sins were not future when Christ died.

[Vhayes]

OK, if they are saved then live in sin they will not be saved at the judgment where we are actually saved. Paul said adulterers will not enter into the kingdom of heaven

Let's look at those verses in their entirety:
I Corinthians 6

5-I say this to your shame Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren,
6-but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers?
7-Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be defrauded?
8-On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.
9-Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10-nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11-Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Paul is talking about the unsaved. He then goes on to say BUT you WERE washed.

If you want to say a person will not enter heaven who has commited adultery, then you will have to say the same thing about anyone who has premarital sex, is jealous of his neighbors new corvette or place their family above God.

Please read Hebrews 6 and tell me what it says to you.

Thanks -
V

[Vhayes]

He came to preach the gospel of the kingdom

And what IS the gospel?

[Vhayes]

No, All of Pauls sins were not future when Christ died.

Paul was a Jew. How were Jews saved before Christ was crucified?