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    Homosexual entertainers.

    I'm just wondering if we as Christians should go to concerts where the star is lesbian or homosexual ? I turned the tv on the other day and heard some beautiful music and singing, so I looked closer and saw it was KD Lang, the lesbian singer, I love her voice and it was a beautiful love song, but I didn't know if I should watch it or not. The look of her really turns me off....and I didn't continue watching it, but only because she was a lesbian, not because I didn't like how she sang.

    I have a brother who is homosexual and I love him to bits, but somehow it seems different to set out and watch someone performing.

    I wonder too if Christians should go to these transverstite shows....not that I've ever been to one. But similarly, I don't like those shows where young women expose their breasts and dance around almost naked.

    Any thoughts...

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    Rocky, I believe that going to a transvestite show or any event where someone is blatantly glorifying sin in front of an audience can't possibly be good or wise for a Christian to attend. That being said, singers are sometimes a different matter. It depends, for instance, what they're singing about. If Lang is singing love songs and they're to a woman -- then I'd say that's glorifying sin, right? Sometimes sin really SOUNDS beautiful.... and Lang has an awesome voice. But awesome voice or not, do you hear that still, small voice in the back of your head saying "this makes me feel uncomfortable"? Pay attention to that. It won't steer you wrong.

    If artists sing about very general things that aren't inherently sinful at all (nature, say...) then why not give it a listen? I'd listen to a pretty song about, say, Autumn.... without minding who was singing it. I'd also buy a pretty painting without minding who painted it.... so long as the piece itself wasn't flaunting or advertising sin.

    Hope that makes sense.

    P.S. -- the song "Calling All Angels" by KD Lang and Jane Siberry is indeed worth a listen, despite who it's by. It has nothing to do with sexuality. It's hauntingly beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeCat View Post
    Rocky, I believe that going to a transvestite show or any event where someone is blatantly glorifying sin in front of an audience can't possibly be good or wise for a Christian to attend. That being said, singers are sometimes a different matter. It depends, for instance, what they're singing about. If Lang is singing love songs and they're to a woman -- then I'd say that's glorifying sin, right? Sometimes sin really SOUNDS beautiful.... and Lang has an awesome voice. But awesome voice or not, do you hear that still, small voice in the back of your head saying "this makes me feel uncomfortable"? Pay attention to that. It won't steer you wrong.

    If artists sing about very general things that aren't inherently sinful at all (nature, say...) then why not give it a listen? I'd listen to a pretty song about, say, Autumn.... without minding who was singing it. I'd also buy a pretty painting without minding who painted it.... so long as the piece itself wasn't flaunting or advertising sin.

    Hope that makes sense.

    P.S. -- the song "Calling All Angels" by KD Lang and Jane Siberry is indeed worth a listen, despite who it's by. It has nothing to do with sexuality. It's hauntingly beautiful.
    I have to agree with this. Attending these kinds of concerts/shows are not conducive to your walk with the Lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocking horse View Post
    I'm just wondering if we as Christians should go to concerts where the star is lesbian or homosexual ?
    We often have no way of knowing what someone's sexual orientation really is.

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    God has called us to be holy. We are called to be lights in this dark world.
    Matthew 5:16-"In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven."

    The Israelites made the same mistake over and over again. They would mingle with the people of the land and after awhile godless ways became acceptable to the point where they ended up worshiping their gods.
    We would say,"I would never do that, yet when we find homosexuals funny, we slowly accept it.The thing is, we do it so gradually, we don't even recognize it as sin.

    If you were going to talk with a homosexual/lesbian to tell them about Jesus Christ,that's different, but to sit and laugh among them is not something that should be ok with any of us who are followers of Jesus Christ.

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    First reaction - how is this any different than listening to the music of any other sinner?

    Second thought - Are those other sinners openly glorifing in their sin? Do they make a point of being an "Open Liar" or "Proud Pedophile" or "Adulterer and Proud?"

    Final realization - No, it's probably not a good idea to support an open and proud homosexual in their art, it can be very testimony damaging as the world sees you - Christian, having no problem with that person because she's gay..."Why can't more Christians be so accepting?"

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    As long as the entertainer isn't using their stand-up routine, music, etc. as a platform to promote their homosexuality, I see no problem. Christians need to get over the idea that homosexuality is somehow worse than fornication, lying, gossip, etc. That's simply not how Scripture speaks of sin. K. D. Lang's lesbianism is just as offensive to God as the Scientology that's rampant in Hollywood. One is not less offensive than the other.

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    Here's my approach. Is the show I'm watching or the song I'm listening to, or the book I'm reading (etc.) have anything to do with their sexual orientation? Does it support it, express it, glorify it, or defend it? If so, the answer is clear: I should avoid it. If not, then the song, story, picture, movie, (etc.) must be judged on its own merits and enjoyed, ignored, or outright shunned accordingly.

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    Where is the line drawn? Should I turn the station on the radio when Crocodile Rock comes on? I think we have to look at the product in most cases, not the man or people behind the product. Would you not buy a Sony television if you found out the president of Sony was gay? (He's not that I know of, just want to be clear that was a hypothetical before anyone starts burning their PS3s.) What if you found out the president of Target was a swinger? He doesn't practice homosexuality, but he and his wife are open to have sex with whoever they want? Would you no longer shop at Target? The point is there are tons of people who practice sins. As long as the product itself is fine and does not promote it, I think it's OK on a surface level to listen/watch/consume it. Now where things get tricky is if you feel going to a concert would make a fellow Christian stumble.

    It's a fine line. You can't avoid dealing with people that practice sin. You just can't. When you go to the grocery store and get some food, I guarantee you that someone somewhere in the hierarchy of that company practices something that is despicable. It can't be avoided.

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    I try my hardest not to involve myself with things that are against my beliefs, but sometimes it is so impossible to get around all the sin. Its like you would have to isolate yourself completly from all people and live in a bubble lol. I just pray and treat all people with love. I have friends that are gay, do I stop being there friend because there gay? absolutely not. But out friendship is limited. I try to encourage my friend all the time to come to my church...because she is just a hurt and lost soul. You have to love people no matter there lifystyle. Love the person but not the sin.

    But as far as the tube I can control that I click it off or turn the chanel if it gets too much for me. Some shows such as south park or morel oral are just too much. I get so offended and I have to just cut it off. So if I can limit what I watch or what shows I attend I enforce that right. Even the music I listen to....I only listen to christian music but even with the christian music you have to be extremly carful...you would be surprised how many christian songs have nothing to do with God. Open your ears
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    When you support something , it means that you are putting your approval on it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACCM View Post
    When you support something , it means that you are putting your approval on it....
    I have to disagree with that. Sin is everywhere. That's like saying I won't shop at Buy and Bag cause one of thier 23,000 employess across the country might be a nonbeliever. There aren't enough christian businesses around to to avoid the secular ones.

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    I agree, there is a difference between paying for or watching products that specifically glorify or endorse sin, and products that are produced by somebody who is a sinner. Even if you only bought only Christian products or services, you would still be dealing with people actively sinning most of the time. Not to mention that its actually impossible to only buy Christian items, since even those companies would inevitably be dealing with non-Christian suppliers, manufacturers, etc.

    On the question of what enterprises to support overall, I don't really have a well thought opinion on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndie View Post
    I have to disagree with that. Sin is everywhere. That's like saying I won't shop at Buy and Bag cause one of thier 23,000 employess across the country might be a nonbeliever. There aren't enough christian businesses around to to avoid the secular ones.
    No Lyndie, not the same.... here we talk about a specific person, and not a possibility of one in a million
    Fenris: "There are two ways to shoot an arrow into a bulls-eye You can shoot the arrow into the bulls-eye or you can shoot the arrow and paint the bulls-eye wherever it hits"

    Romans 12:19 Don't seek revenge ... give place to God's wrath. For it is written "Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay, says the Lord"

    Isa. 30:32
    And every blow of the rod of punishment, which the Lord will lay on him, will be with the music of tambourines and lyres; And in battles, brandishing weapons, He will fight them

    G_d was gracious He has shown favor

    What are you willing to die for? Now live for it!




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    Hi Rocky,

    Look at it like this. Sin is sin, no matter what form it comes in. So if you tell yourself that you shouldn't listen to music because it is created by a gay person, it would be hypocritical to also stop listening to music created by artists who abuse alcohol... or drugs... or who cheat on their spouses... or who lie.... you see, we are all guilty of sins of some sort or another, and all sins are equal in the eyes of God.

    The question is, do these artists make it a point to glorify their sinful behavior? Or do they focus instead on the more general aspects of human existence like love, hardships, joy, etc?

    If you're looking for artists who are free from sin, you aren't going to find them, my friend.

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