LDS Church

[tt1106]

Joseph Smith received a revelation from an angel. He was told where to find some Golden tablets. The tablets required special glasses which were provided to read. He then lost the glasses and was delivered seer stones to read the tablets. He then had a friend transcribe the text of what became the book of mormon, while he translated the tablet.
The Book of mormon is ever changing. The first few drafts were so rife with mistakes that they Church changed the book to make it easier and more cohesively assembled.
The crux of the religion is it is works based. Mormons do plenty of good works, and the hope is they can acheive Godhood like God did, because he started as a man also.
They also believe Jesus and Satan were heavenly brothers and the rift in Heaven was over who was going to be designated as Savior of the Human Race.
Men used to be able to have more thna one wive, now they do not, but the man still has the authority to bring his wife into Heaven or not, once he acheives Godhood. He is then allowed to serve as God over a Planet.
They believe that the God had to physically lay with Mary.
They also believe some funny things about how the planet is to be populated once you achieve Godhood. I have relatives that are Mormon and they are the nicest people in the world.
Not saved, but very nice.

[Firstfruits]

Joseph Smith received a revelation from an angel. He was told where to find some Golden tablets. The tablets required special glasses which were provided to read. He then lost the glasses and was delivered seer stones to read the tablets. He then had a friend transcribe the text of what became the book of mormon, while he translated the tablet.
The Book of mormon is ever changing. The first few drafts were so rife with mistakes that they Church changed the book to make it easier and more cohesively assembled.
The crux of the religion is it is works based. Mormons do plenty of good works, and the hope is they can acheive Godhood like God did, because he started as a man also.
They also believe Jesus and Satan were heavenly brothers and the rift in Heaven was over who was going to be designated as Savior of the Human Race.
Men used to be able to have more thna one wive, now they do not, but the man still has the authority to bring his wife into Heaven or not, once he acheives Godhood. He is then allowed to serve as God over a Planet.
They believe that the God had to physically lay with Mary.
They also believe some funny things about how the planet is to be populated once you achieve Godhood. I have relatives that are Mormon and they are the nicest people in the world.
Not saved, but very nice.

Joseph Smith has a lot to answer for, for all those that follow the gospel he claims to have received from the angel Moroni.

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[Equipped_4_Love]

I really appreciate all these answers..... my next question was gonna be if the Mormons and LDS are related... and I see they are...??

ACCM;

Just curious....how many Mormons are there in your country? Is it flourishing there, as they claim (they say it is flourishing and growing worldwide).

[Equipped_4_Love]

He was allowed to translate this using Urim and Thummim, the mysterious lots the OT Levites used to help determine God's will.

I think I would have an easier time believing that he translated it using Uma Thurman:

[Bethany67]

As at 2004, there were 180,000 Mormons in the UK, having risen from 6,500 in the 1960s. Depending on how they would have answered on the 2001 Census, they might be included in 'Other Protestant' 2.3% of the population, 'Christian no denomination' 9.6%, or 'Other Christian' 0.3%.

[HisLeast]

As at 2004, there were 180,000 Mormons in the UK, having risen from 6,500 in the 1960s. Depending on how they would have answered on the 2001 Census, they might be included in 'Other Protestant' 2.3% of the population, 'Christian no denomination' 9.6%, or 'Other Christian' 0.3%.

According to my LDS co-worker, there are now many times more LDS outside the US than within the US as well.

[Firstfruits]

According to my LDS co-worker, there are now many times more LDS outside the US than within the US as well.

Let us hope that they will find the right way before it is too late.

Mt 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

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[Lucariokid13]

Accm, I just want to warn u there are alot of misconceptions about lds. The best thing to do is gone onto fairlds or mormon wiki, then go onto an anti-mormon website and see the criticisms and see what the pro mormon website says about them.
Im not saying Mormonism is true but i believe some people dont look at both sides of the arguement.
But i will say They dont believe God had physical lay, they take the biblical explanation. And they get their father thing from acts: 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'

I guess it just depends on whats in the persons heart. Some believe in different parts.
Btw im really tired so i dont want to debate

[Firstfruits]

Accm, I just want to warn u there are alot of misconceptions about lds. The best thing to do is gone onto fairlds or mormon wiki, then go onto an anti-mormon website and see the criticisms and see what the pro mormon website says about them.
Im not saying Mormonism is true but i believe some people dont look at both sides of the arguement.
But i will say They dont believe God had physical lay, they take the biblical explanation. And they get their father thing from acts: 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'

I guess it just depends on whats in the persons heart. Some believe in different parts.
Btw im really tired so i dont want to debate

There are many parts of mormonism that has been changed through out history, what we may see now is not was it first given by Joseph Smith and his followers.

The original discourses are a real eye opener.

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[Lucariokid13]

Thats true. I think they say that the presidents are prophets and have the right to change scripture. I need to look inoy that abit more..

[David Taylor]

Each President presides over 'the quorum of 12'; and is God's living apostle upon the Earth; as was Paul and Peter before him. This apostleship was restarted with Joseph Smith, then Brigham Young, and continues today.

The Prophet (kinda like the Pope in Catholicism), can speak authoritatively for God. Most of the Mormon's biggest baloney teachings come from this action; and they are recorded in their less-known holy book, the Doctrines and Covenants. That is where the stuff like becoming gods came from. The book of mormon itself is a pretty tame work of fiction that plagerizes alot from the KJV bible, and doctrinally is not really far off from the Bible...it just creates a fanciful land of stories like Peter Pan or Narnia....and attempts to pass it off as true. The primary false teachings of Mormonism come out of the Doctrines and Covenants.

[Firstfruits]

Each President presides over 'the quorum of 12'; and is God's living apostle upon the Earth; as was Paul and Peter before him. This apostleship was restarted with Joseph Smith, then Brigham Young, and continues today.

The Prophet (kinda like the Pope in Catholicism), can speak authoritatively for God. Most of the Mormon's biggest baloney teachings come from this action; and they are recorded in their less-known holy book, the Doctrines and Covenants. That is where the stuff like becoming gods came from. The book of mormon itself is a pretty tame work of fiction that plagerizes alot from the KJV bible, and doctrinally is not really far off from the Bible...it just creates a fanciful land of stories like Peter Pan or Narnia....and attempts to pass it off as true. The primary false teachings of Mormonism come out of the Doctrines and Covenants.

Would it be fair to say that without the D&C Mormonism would not have a lot to stand on?

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[David Taylor]

Would it be fair to say that without the D&C Mormonism would not have a lot to stand on?
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I always think of the D&C as how they justify their bad doctrines and conflicts with the Bible. Remove it, and alot of their quirky teachings disappear; but they're still following two other works of fiction: The Pearl of Great Price, and the Book of Mormon.

Until their 'QUAD' becomes a single book (The Bible), they're gonna stay deceived and trapped following another jesus, who isn't the true Jesus who can save them.

[Dani H]

I find the LDS faith very confusing. The deeper you research it, the more convoluted it becomes. On the surface, it sounds all very similar to Christianity, and the missionaries only present you with that part at first. But if you dig a little deeper, you quickly find the discrepancies. If you look at what Joseph Smith really believed towards the end of his life, and how he lived, you will soon find that LDS and Christianity really have nothing to do with each other. Of course the deception is that if someone only accepts the surface teachings and remains content with those, then it's easy to see how they would consider themselves "Christians" because there are so many parallels and they do use the Bible, after all. They're structured around apostles and prophet(s), and they believe that "their" apostles and prophet(s) are the only true ones appointed of God and that all others are fake and have no authority. It's really a hodgpodge mix of Biblical teachings and extra-Biblical mumbo jumbo.

It really grieves me because they are so very friendly and very sincere, and you can see that they really do love God (or at least whichever "God" they think they're serving), and I've had some good times chatting with some of their missionaries who dared set foot into my home and try and preach their gospel to me. My heart goes out to them and so I do what I can to present them with the simple truth of the Gospel of Jesus, and let the Holy Spirit deal with them.

[Ta-An]

ACCM;

Just curious....how many Mormons are there in your country? Is it flourishing there, as they claim (they say it is flourishing and growing worldwide).

Many many.... there is a large community closely here... they are self contained,,, large vegetable gardens etc.

thank you for all the replies