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    by the faith of Jesus Christ Part 1

    by the faith of Jesus Christ: Part 1

    As some may have found out, I am not too good at expressing, and writing down my thoughts. I am not that well educated, so I hope you will bare with me, and I would appreciate any help you may offer, in making this message more readable, and make more sense.

    Act 3:16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

    Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
    Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

    Eph 3:12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

    The question is; why by the faith of Jesus Christ, and not by our faith?

    Yes we put our faith in Christ, but it is by His faith we now live. It is by His faith we are saved. It by His faith we have boldness and access with confidence. It is by His faith that we are now justified. It is by His faith that we minister the gospel and the gifts.

    In short, the reason this is so, is to do with 'Authority'
    He is the Anointed One. This Anointing is Authority, and Authority is the Power

    Matt 8:8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
    Matt 8:9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
    Matt 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

    The centurion understood authority, and he understood that Jesus had this authority to heal. His faith was in the faith of Christ Jesus.

    If we are to exercise authority, we must first be subject to authority. We must submit ourselves to Him, who is the Head of the Body, and we must submit ourselves to one another. We must submit ourselves to those in authority. We must not try to usurp authority.

    How can we expect to exercise authority, if we will not ourselves submit to authority?
    If today we lack power, we should ask ourselves if we are submitted to authority.

    The Lord has shown us how to submit ourselves. He laid aside His own Glory, His own Authority. He became as man, who is made a little lower then the angels. He subjected Himself implicitly and impeccably to the Father. He became the servant of all. He humbled Himself even to washing the disciples feet.

    The faith of the Son of God, was His faith in the Father. He denied Himself and that is why He called His Father, His God

    Having lived a life submitted to Authority, and having been resurected from the grave by His Fathers Authority, He now receives all Authority.

    Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.

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    kenrank Guest
    I would think, but I would have to study the original words, that it might be "faith IN Messiah," rather than, "faith OF Messiah." If it turns out to be the latter, it may be his example we follow. In other words, while Yahushua (Jesus) was God, he still prayed and pointed all glory to God. Now unless there is two Gods, he was showing us by example how we were to worship and walk. So the faith he showed is the faith we follow, we follow his lead.

    Just in case you think I have a screw loose...and I might anyway...but God has set examples in other areas of scripture. On the 7th day of creation he rested...but do we really think he was tired? The everlasting all powerful one God was tired? I don't think so...I think he was setting an example for mankind to follow. This is why Yahushua said the Sabbath was made for MAN.

    In another case, God appears before Abraham with two men who we later find out are angels. God says he hears the cry of sin coming from Sodom, and is going to essentially double check it before passing judgement. Being God, do we really believe he needed to double check? Of course not, He knew exactly was was going on in Sodom. However, by example, He showed Abraham how to gain a second witness on an issue before passing judgement.

    So thinking that Yahushua praying to God while he is God was an example for us to follow, really isn't a stretch. So the faith of Messiah might indeed be us following his example of faith.

    JMHO.

    Peace.
    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partaker of Christ View Post
    by the faith of Jesus Christ: Part 1

    As some may have found out, I am not too good at expressing, and writing down my thoughts. I am not that well educated, so I hope you will bare with me, and I would appreciate any help you may offer, in making this message more readable, and make more sense.

    Act 3:16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

    Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

    Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
    Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

    Eph 3:12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

    The question is; why by the faith of Jesus Christ, and not by our faith?

    Yes we put our faith in Christ, but it is by His faith we now live. It is by His faith we are saved. It by His faith we have boldness and access with confidence. It is by His faith that we are now justified. It is by His faith that we minister the gospel and the gifts.

    In short, the reason this is so, is to do with 'Authority'
    He is the Anointed One. This Anointing is Authority, and Authority is the Power

    Matt 8:8 The centurion answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.
    Matt 8:9 For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it.
    Matt 8:10 When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

    The centurion understood authority, and he understood that Jesus had this authority to heal. His faith was in the faith of Christ Jesus.

    If we are to exercise authority, we must first be subject to authority. We must submit ourselves to Him, who is the Head of the Body, and we must submit ourselves to one another. We must submit ourselves to those in authority. We must not try to usurp authority.

    How can we expect to exercise authority, if we will not ourselves submit to authority?
    If today we lack power, we should ask ourselves if we are submitted to authority.

    The Lord has shown us how to submit ourselves. He laid aside His own Glory, His own Authority. He became as man, who is made a little lower then the angels. He subjected Himself implicitly and impeccably to the Father. He became the servant of all. He humbled Himself even to washing the disciples feet.

    The faith of the Son of God, was His faith in the Father. He denied Himself and that is why He called His Father, His God

    Having lived a life submitted to Authority, and having been resurected from the grave by His Fathers Authority, He now receives all Authority.

    Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.

    When the Scripture says the faith of Jesus Christ, it is speaking of the Gospel message. The Gospel that was preached by the apostles is the faith of Jesus Christ. It is not that Jesus had faith, the faith of Jesus Christ is the message that He brought. When we hear the Gospel preached it is the faith of Jesus Christ.

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    kenrank Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Butch5 View Post
    When the Scripture says the faith of Jesus Christ, it is speaking of the Gospel message. The Gospel that was preached by the apostles is the faith of Jesus Christ. It is not that Jesus had faith, the faith of Jesus Christ is the message that He brought. When we hear the Gospel preached it is the faith of Jesus Christ.
    I would say that makes perfect sense Butch! We see in other places about "walking in the faith." The faith then being the WAY...walking in the Good News. Makes sense to me.

    Peace.
    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partaker of Christ View Post
    by the faith of Jesus Christ: Part 1

    As some may have found out, I am not too good at expressing, and writing down my thoughts. I am not that well educated, so I hope you will bare with me, and I would appreciate any help you may offer, in making this message more readable, and make more sense.
    There is no education beyond what is provided by the Holy Spirit worth the gifts of our Father. Glory be to God Almighty as He created all men's hearts equal in hope and need.

    Thank you for demonstrating the Spirit of humility.


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