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Thread: JESUS' Command: "Make Disciples" or make "Christians"???

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    Question JESUS' Command: "Make Disciples" or make "Christians"???

    It is written: “And JESUS came and spoke to them, saying,All authority has been given to ME in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in THE NAME of THE FATHER and of THE SON and of THE HOLY SPIRIT, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. (Matthew 28:18-20NKJV)’”

    Did JESUS CHRIST tell us to “make Disciples” or to make “Christians”?

    If HE told us to “make Disciples” why are we not doing so?

    What is a "Disciples"?
    How does one "make" a "Disciples"?
    What is a "Christian"?
    What is the Scriptural origin of the word, "Christian(s)"?

    What did JESUS CHRIST call HIS Followers ("Disciples" or "Christians")? Why? Why not?

    Let's discuss it. . .because our LORD also said, "If ye love me, keep my commandments. (John 14:15)"

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    Hm... could this be... nitpicking over trivial matters?

    Christ said "make disciples". The label "Christian" first was used at Antioch. Peter says we can bear the label "Christian" without feeling ashamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOM View Post
    Did JESUS CHRIST tell us to “make Disciples” or to make “Christians”?
    To make Disciples

    If HE told us to “make Disciples” why are we not doing so?
    Who is "we"?

    What is a "Disciples"?
    Simply put, it is a "follower". It is someone who follows a philosophy or teaching of another.

    How does one "make" a "Disciples"?
    By educating them, equipping them, living by an example, holding them accountable to what is being taught, etc.

    What is a "Christian"?
    "Little Christ", in other words, someone who follows Christ.

    What is the Scriptural origin of the word, "Christian(s)"?
    Does there need to be one? Why or why not?

    What did JESUS CHRIST call HIS Followers ("Disciples" or "Christians")? Why? Why not?
    Disciples, obviously. He doesn't say why. Does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Hope* View Post
    To make Disciples

    Who is "we"?
    The "we" are the ones JESUS promises to be with "to the end of the age", since "we" do live in "the age" that has not yet ended. Don't we?

    Does there need to be one?
    Do you not think it needful that you know the Biblical origin of a Word that you refer to yourself as being?

    Disciples, obviously. He doesn't say why. Does it matter?
    Try a Scriptural word search for "Disciple(s)" and for "Christian(s)"; that is, see how many times each word appears in Scripture.

    BTW, It must have matter to JESUS; HE's THE ONE WHO gave us the Command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOM View Post
    The "we" are the ones JESUS promises to be with "to the end of the age", since "we" do live in "the age" that has not yet ended. Don't we?
    Don't you think it's a bit presumptuous for you to suggest that others (whom you don't even know) are not following this command?

    Do you not think it needful that you know the Biblical origin of a Word that you refer to yourself as being?
    Nope. The Word "Bible" and "Trinity" isn't found in Scripture either. Doesn't bother me at all.

    Try a Scriptural word search for "Disciple(s)" and for "Christian(s)"; that is, see how many times each word appears in Scripture.
    Like I said, I don't find it necessary for every word to be in Scripture. The concept is taught, thus we say it's "scriptural".

    BTW, It must have matter to JESUS; HE's THE ONE WHO gave us the Command.
    So did the Trinity not matter to Jesus? He never mentioned it....

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    There is literally no difference between a Christian, a disciple, a follower of the Way, etc. They are all synonymous.

    Honestly, it sounds like you're just trying to rile up trouble by focusing on semantics.

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    To make disciples you must first be a disciple. Sometimes we get the cart before the horse and try to teach when we should be learning.Gaining the information is only the first step. We only become a true disciple when we actually walk this life out. I find myself lacking in some big areas.
    rendering evil for evil.
    loving those that hate me
    turning the other cheek.

    I do have a couple of thing down though.
    being poor in spirit'
    hunger and thirsting for righteousness
    Lord,one thing I ask...use me for your glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apothanein kerdos View Post
    There is literally no difference between a Christian, a disciple, a follower of the Way, etc. They are all synonymous.

    Honestly, it sounds like you're just trying to rile up trouble by focusing on semantics.
    That's what I'm thinking.....

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    Regardless, both Acts and 1 Peter refer to disciples/followers of the Way as Christians. So it doesn't really seem to be that big of a deal...

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    Third'd........

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Hope* View Post
    Don't you think it's a bit presumptuous for you to suggest that others (whom you don't even know) are not following this command?
    How "presumptuous" would I have to be in order to recognize that I wasn't asked if I were a "Disciple" in order to join this Forum? In fact "Disciple" is nowhere on the list. The operative word around here is "Christian"; and that's a good thing, in that it identifies us with JESUS CHRIST, of WHOM I am not ashamed.

    Nope. The Word "Bible" and "Trinity" isn't found in Scripture either. Doesn't bother me at all.
    Do you call yourself either "Bible" or "Trinity"?

    Like I said, I don't find it necessary for every word to be in Scripture. The concept is taught, thus we say it's "scriptural".
    The "word" "Disciple" is "in Scripture". And, "The concept" of Discipleship "is taught". And that's what this discussion is supposed to be about and how it relates to "Christian" and/or "Christianity".

    So did the Trinity not matter to Jesus? He never mentioned it....
    We could do this all night Hope, JESUS never used the word "Trinity". Now if what you're talking about is "THE FATHER and of THE SON and of THE HOLY SPIRIT", HE often spoke of THE THREE.

    But back to my point, JESUS used, exclusively, the word, "Disciple(s)". Yes or No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOM View Post
    How "presumptuous" would I have to be in order to recognize that I wasn't asked if I were a "Disciple" in order to join this Forum?
    Do you know what it means to presume? You should look it up, you're good at it

    Your initial post presumed that "we" are not following Christ's command. You don't know what "we" do in real life. You are "presuming" based on a question posed by this Forum's qualifications for membership? Hmmmm

    In fact "Disciple" is nowhere on the list. The operative word around here is "Christian"; and that's a good thing, in that it identifies us with JESUS CHRIST, of WHOM I am not ashamed.
    Good. So what's the problem?

    Do you call yourself either "Bible" or "Trinity"?
    No?

    The "word" "Disciple" is "in Scripture". And, "The concept" of Discipleship "is taught". And that's what this discussion is supposed to be about and how it relates to "Christian" and/or "Christianity".
    Which is a moot point because it's semantics. They are essentially interchangeable.

    We could do this all night Hope, JESUS never used the word "Trinity". Now if what you're talking about is "THE FATHER and of THE SON and of THE HOLY SPIRIT", HE often spoke of THE THREE.
    Right. He never said the word "Christian" but HE often spoke of His DISCIPLES (i.e. His followers). And...?

    But back to my point, JESUS used, exclusively, the word, "Disciple(s)". Yes or No?
    JESUS used, exclusively "THE FATHER" and "THE SON" and "THE HOLY SPIRIT". Yes or No? Should we not use "The Trinity"?

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    How about we just cut to the chase and you tell us what this topic is really about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Hope* View Post
    Which is a moot point because it's semantics. They are essentially interchangeable.
    Right. He never said the word "Christian" but HE often spoke of His DISCIPLES (i.e. His followers). And...?
    Wow, now why didn't I think of that? Hmmm, "it's semantics. They are essentially interchangeable.":

    And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came unto him: (Matthew 5:1)

    And another of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. (Matthew 8:21)

    And when he was entered into a ship, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] followed him. (Matthew 8:23)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. (Matthew 8:25)

    And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (Matthew 9:10)

    And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? (Matthew 9:11)

    And Jesus arose, and followed him, and so did his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (Matthew 9:19)

    Then saith he unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; (Matthew 9:37)

    And when he had called unto him his twelve [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. (Matthew 10:1)

    And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. (Matthew 11:1)

    Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Matthew 11:2)

    At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. (Matthew 12:1)

    And he stretched forth his hand toward his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! (Matthew 12:49)

    Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. (Matthew 13:36)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came, and took up the body, and buried it, and went and told Jesus. (Matthew 14:12)

    And when it was evening, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. (Matthew 14:15)

    And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] to the multitude. (Matthew 14:19)

    And straightway Jesus constrained his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away. (Matthew 14:22)

    Then came his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? (Matthew 15:12)

    But he answered her not a word. And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. (Matthew 15:23)

    Then Jesus called his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] unto him, and said, I have compassion on the multitude, because they continue with me now three days, and have nothing to eat: and I will not send them away fasting, lest they faint in the way. (Matthew 15:32)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] say unto him, Whence should we have so much bread in the wilderness, as to fill so great a multitude? (Matthew 15:33)

    And he took the seven loaves and the fishes, and gave thanks, and brake them, and gave to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] to the multitude. (Matthew 15:36)

    And when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread. (Matthew 16:5)

    When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? (Matthew 16:13)

    Then charged he his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. (Matthew 16:20)

    From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. (Matthew 16:21)

    Then said Jesus unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthew 16:24)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? (Matthew 17:10)

    His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. (Matthew 19:10)

    Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] rebuked them. (Matthew 19:13)

    Then said Jesus unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 19:23)

    When his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? (Matthew 19:25)

    Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Matthew 23:1)

    And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. (Matthew 24:1)

    And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Matthew 26:1)

    But when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? (Matthew 26:8)

    Then cometh he to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. (Matthew 26:45)

    Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. (Matthew 27:64)

    And go quickly, and tell his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. (Matthew 28:7)

    And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] word. (Matthew 28:8)

    And as they went to tell his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. (Matthew 28:9)

    Saying, Say ye, His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came by night, and stole him away while we slept. (Matthew 28:13)

    But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? (Luke 5:30)

    And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands. (Luke 6:1)

    And when it was day, he called unto him his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; (Luke 6:13)

    And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases; (Luke 6:17)

    And he lifted up his eyes on his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. (Luke 6:20)

    And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] went with him, and much people. (Luke 7:11)

    And John calling unto him two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? (Luke 7:19)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] asked him, saying, What might this parable be? (Luke 8:9)

    Now it came to pass on a certain day, that he went into a ship with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]: and he said unto them, Let us go over unto the other side of the lake. And they launched forth. (Luke 8:22)

    Then he called his twelve [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. (Luke 9:1)

    For they were about five thousand men. And he said to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Make them sit down by fifties in a company. (Luke 9:14)

    And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am? (Luke 9:18)

    And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Luke 9:43)

    And when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? (Luke 9:54)

    And he turned him unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: (Luke 10:23)

    And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (Luke 11:1)

    In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. (Luke 12:1)

    And he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. (Luke 12:22)

    And he said also unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. (Luke 16:1)

    And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] saw it, they rebuked them. (Luke 18:15)

    And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Luke 19:29)

    Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Luke 20:45)

    And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] also followed him. (Luke 22:39)

    And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], he found them sleeping for sorrow, (Luke 22:45)

    Again the next day after John stood, and two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]; (John 1:35)

    And both Jesus was called, and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], to the marriage. (John 2:2)

    This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] believed on him. (John 2:11)

    After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]: and they continued there not many days. (John 2:12)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up. (John 2:17)

    When therefore he was risen from the dead, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. (John 2:22)

    After these things came Jesus and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. (John 3:22)

    (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]],) (John 4:2)

    (For his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were gone away unto the city to buy meat.) (John 4:8)

    And upon this came his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her? (John 4:27)

    In the mean while his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] prayed him, saying, Master, eat. (John 4:31)

    And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 6:3)

    One of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him, (John 6:8)

    When they were filled, he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost. (John 6:12)

    And when even was now come, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] went down unto the sea, (John 6:16)

    The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were entered, and that Jesus went not with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] into the boat, but that his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were gone away alone; (John 6:22)

    When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus. (John 6:24)

    Many therefore of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? (John 6:60)

    When Jesus knew in himself that his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? (John 6:61)

    From that time many of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] went back, and walked no more with him. (John 6:66)

    His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] also may see the works that thou doest. (John 7:3)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? (John 9:2)

    He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]? (John 9:27)

    Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 9:28)

    Then after that saith he to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Let us go into Judaea again. (John 11:7)

    His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone thee; and goest thou thither again? (John 11:8)

    Then said his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. (John 11:12)

    Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim, and there continued with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 11:54)

    Then saith one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, (John 12:4)

    These things understood not his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him. (John 12:16)

    Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], whom Jesus loved. (John 13:23)

    Then said some of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father? (John 16:17)

    His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. (John 16:29)

    When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 18:1)

    And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus ofttimes resorted thither with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 18:2)

    The high priest then asked Jesus of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and of his doctrine. (John 18:19)

    And Simon Peter stood and warmed himself. They said therefore unto him, Art not thou also one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]? He denied it, and said, I am not. (John 18:25)

    And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] glad, when they saw the Lord. (John 20:20)

    The other [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. (John 20:25)

    And after eight days again his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. (John 20:26)

    And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], which are not written in this book: (John 20:30)

    There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 21:2)

    This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], after that he was risen from the dead. (John 21:14)

    Thanks for that revelation Hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOM View Post
    Wow, now why didn't I think of that? Hmmm, "it's semantics. They are essentially interchangeable.":

    And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came unto him: (Matthew 5:1)

    And another of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. (Matthew 8:21)

    And when he was entered into a ship, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] followed him. (Matthew 8:23)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. (Matthew 8:25)

    And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (Matthew 9:10)

    And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? (Matthew 9:11)

    And Jesus arose, and followed him, and so did his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (Matthew 9:19)

    Then saith he unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few; (Matthew 9:37)

    And when he had called unto him his twelve [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. (Matthew 10:1)

    And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. (Matthew 11:1)

    Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Matthew 11:2)

    At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. (Matthew 12:1)

    And he stretched forth his hand toward his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! (Matthew 12:49)

    Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. (Matthew 13:36)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came, and took up the body, and buried it, and went and told Jesus. (Matthew 14:12)

    And when it was evening, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. (Matthew 14:15)

    And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] to the multitude. (Matthew 14:19)

    And straightway Jesus constrained his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away. (Matthew 14:22)

    Then came his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? (Matthew 15:12)

    But he answered her not a word. And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. (Matthew 15:23)

    Then Jesus called his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] unto him, and said, I have compassion on the multitude, because they continue with me now three days, and have nothing to eat: and I will not send them away fasting, lest they faint in the way. (Matthew 15:32)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] say unto him, Whence should we have so much bread in the wilderness, as to fill so great a multitude? (Matthew 15:33)

    And he took the seven loaves and the fishes, and gave thanks, and brake them, and gave to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] to the multitude. (Matthew 15:36)

    And when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread. (Matthew 16:5)

    When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? (Matthew 16:13)

    Then charged he his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ. (Matthew 16:20)

    From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. (Matthew 16:21)

    Then said Jesus unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthew 16:24)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? (Matthew 17:10)

    His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. (Matthew 19:10)

    Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] rebuked them. (Matthew 19:13)

    Then said Jesus unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 19:23)

    When his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? (Matthew 19:25)

    Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Matthew 23:1)

    And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. (Matthew 24:1)

    And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Matthew 26:1)

    But when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste? (Matthew 26:8)

    Then cometh he to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. (Matthew 26:45)

    Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first. (Matthew 27:64)

    And go quickly, and tell his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. (Matthew 28:7)

    And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] word. (Matthew 28:8)

    And as they went to tell his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. (Matthew 28:9)

    Saying, Say ye, His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] came by night, and stole him away while we slept. (Matthew 28:13)

    But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? (Luke 5:30)

    And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands. (Luke 6:1)

    And when it was day, he called unto him his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; (Luke 6:13)

    And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases; (Luke 6:17)

    And he lifted up his eyes on his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. (Luke 6:20)

    And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] went with him, and much people. (Luke 7:11)

    And John calling unto him two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] sent them to Jesus, saying, Art thou he that should come? or look we for another? (Luke 7:19)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] asked him, saying, What might this parable be? (Luke 8:9)

    Now it came to pass on a certain day, that he went into a ship with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]: and he said unto them, Let us go over unto the other side of the lake. And they launched forth. (Luke 8:22)

    Then he called his twelve [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. (Luke 9:1)

    For they were about five thousand men. And he said to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Make them sit down by fifties in a company. (Luke 9:14)

    And it came to pass, as he was alone praying, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were with him: and he asked them, saying, Whom say the people that I am? (Luke 9:18)

    And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Luke 9:43)

    And when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? (Luke 9:54)

    And he turned him unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: (Luke 10:23)

    And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (Luke 11:1)

    In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. (Luke 12:1)

    And he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. (Luke 12:22)

    And he said also unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. (Luke 16:1)

    And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] saw it, they rebuked them. (Luke 18:15)

    And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Luke 19:29)

    Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], (Luke 20:45)

    And he came out, and went, as he was wont, to the mount of Olives; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] also followed him. (Luke 22:39)

    And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], he found them sleeping for sorrow, (Luke 22:45)

    Again the next day after John stood, and two of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]; (John 1:35)

    And both Jesus was called, and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], to the marriage. (John 2:2)

    This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth his glory; and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] believed on him. (John 2:11)

    After this he went down to Capernaum, he, and his mother, and his brethren, and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]: and they continued there not many days. (John 2:12)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up. (John 2:17)

    When therefore he was risen from the dead, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said. (John 2:22)

    After these things came Jesus and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. (John 3:22)

    (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]],) (John 4:2)

    (For his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were gone away unto the city to buy meat.) (John 4:8)

    And upon this came his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her? (John 4:27)

    In the mean while his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] prayed him, saying, Master, eat. (John 4:31)

    And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 6:3)

    One of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, saith unto him, (John 6:8)

    When they were filled, he said unto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost. (John 6:12)

    And when even was now come, his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] went down unto the sea, (John 6:16)

    The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was none other boat there, save that one whereinto his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were entered, and that Jesus went not with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] into the boat, but that his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were gone away alone; (John 6:22)

    When the people therefore saw that Jesus was not there, neither his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], they also took shipping, and came to Capernaum, seeking for Jesus. (John 6:24)

    Many therefore of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? (John 6:60)

    When Jesus knew in himself that his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? (John 6:61)

    From that time many of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] went back, and walked no more with him. (John 6:66)

    His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] also may see the works that thou doest. (John 7:3)

    And his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? (John 9:2)

    He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]? (John 9:27)

    Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 9:28)

    Then after that saith he to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Let us go into Judaea again. (John 11:7)

    His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone thee; and goest thou thither again? (John 11:8)

    Then said his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. (John 11:12)

    Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim, and there continued with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 11:54)

    Then saith one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, (John 12:4)

    These things understood not his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] at the first: but when Jesus was glorified, then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him. (John 12:16)

    Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], whom Jesus loved. (John 13:23)

    Then said some of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father? (John 16:17)

    His [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb. (John 16:29)

    When Jesus had spoken these words, he went forth with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] over the brook Cedron, where was a garden, into the which he entered, and his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 18:1)

    And Judas also, which betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus ofttimes resorted thither with his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 18:2)

    The high priest then asked Jesus of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], and of his doctrine. (John 18:19)

    And Simon Peter stood and warmed himself. They said therefore unto him, Art not thou also one of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]? He denied it, and said, I am not. (John 18:25)

    And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] glad, when they saw the Lord. (John 20:20)

    The other [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. (John 20:25)

    And after eight days again his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]] were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. (John 20:26)

    And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], which are not written in this book: (John 20:30)

    There were together Simon Peter, and Thomas called Didymus, and Nathanael of Cana in Galilee, and the sons of Zebedee, and two other of his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]]. (John 21:2)

    This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his [[["CHRISTIANS"]]], after that he was risen from the dead. (John 21:14)

    Thanks for that revelation Hope.
    Again, your point?

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