I see where you have underlined portions of what I said. But I don't see where you have given me reasons to think that what I said isn't true. The reason I downplay, or even negate the freewill of man, is because this passage and others like them take man's decision of the the equation. In John 6, for instance, Jesus is giving the crowds his explanation for why some of them are not accepting the fact that he is the messiah sent from God.
Originally Posted by Bandit
35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36 "But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe.
Why is it that some remain incredulous, even in the face of overwhelming evidence? Jesus claims that until the Father does whatever the Father does, a man will not believe. Only those folks whom the Father has caused or allowed to believe will believe. The Jews of his day didn't start off in neutral. They remained incredulous and skeptical about a man's claim to be the messiah until it could be shown to be otherwise. Jesus has observed that some men, however, remain incredulous even in the face of the evidence. In order for a man to believe, something must be given to them from heaven, like the mana. In other words, unless the Father has given a man to Jesus, he will not come to him because the Father must do something to cause a man to be willing to accept that truth.
All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.
Nothing in that statement suggests the will of man. As I say, Jesus didn't say, "All that decide to come to me . . .", using the free will choice of a man as the basis for coming to him. Jesus said, "All that the Father gives Me . . ." using God's will as the basis for a man's coming to Jesus. He says this in the context of his earlier statement that some of the people who have seen him, i.e. the Holy Spirit has proven and verified the identity of Jesus as the Son of God through the many signs and wonders he performed -- some of them that have seen him refuse to accept the truth of what has been proven to them. And what is the explanation for that? Only those whom the Father draws to Jesus will come to him.
44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 45 "It is written in the prophets, `And they shall all be taught of God.' Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.
Again, Jesus has emphasized the fact of our existence. No one can come to Jesus unless the Father draws him. Not only this, but the only men and women who come to Jesus are those whom the Father teaches. If a man doesn't learn from the Father, what the Father teaches him, he will not come to Jesus.