Can someone explain this?

[Reedan]

! 20 “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, Neither on a Sabbath Day. 21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

People are teaching that theres no need to keep the the sabbath anymore but this verse seems to say that there will always be a sabbath

[Butch5]

! 20 “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, Neither on a Sabbath Day. 21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

People are teaching that theres no need to keep the the sabbath anymore but this verse seems to say that there will always be a sabbath

Jesus was just telling them to hope that when the time comes it is not winter or the Sabbath, because it would be more difficult to flee. I don't see how you understand this to mean the sabbath would continue? Can you explain?

[Reedan]

Jesus was just telling them to hope that when the time comes it is not winter or the Sabbath, because it would be more difficult to flee. I don't see how you understand this to mean the sabbath would continue? Can you explain?

It shows how God cares about the sabbath, And fleeing would disturb the sabbath day, If Jesus did not acknowledge the sabbath, He would of not warned us of that

[notuptome]

Those who are fleeing are Jews. Jews are still because of their rejection of Messiah operating under the law of Moses. A pre triber like myself expects to be in the presence of my Lord before this takes place.

For the cause of Christ.
Roger

[Reedan]

Those who are fleeing are Jews. Jews are still because of their rejection of Messiah operating under the law of Moses. A pre triber like myself expects to be in the presence of my Lord before this takes place.

For the cause of Christ.
Roger

So the sabbath is only for the jews, What about the rest of the 9 commanments?

[Butch5]

It shows how God cares about the sabbath, And fleeing would disturb the sabbath day, If Jesus did not acknowledge the sabbath, He would of not warned us of that

His point was that it would be more difficult for them to flee in the winter or on the Sabbath.

[Sirus]

So the sabbath is only for the jews, What about the rest of the 9 commanments?

For Israel as well. Gentiles are not and never have been under the Mosaic Law unless they choose to convert and put themselves under the Law.

[NotMyOwn]

! 20 “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, Neither on a Sabbath Day. 21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

People are teaching that theres no need to keep the the sabbath anymore but this verse seems to say that there will always be a sabbath

For those who do not believe this is an endtimes event, this actually occurred during the total destruction of Jerusalem in 70A.D.

The sabbath relates because this was an event in Jewish history that hasn't been equalled in it's brutality for a single historical event. The holocaust was equally brutal, but not in the same timespan.

[Bick]

! 20 “But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, Neither on a Sabbath Day. 21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.

People are teaching that theres no need to keep the the sabbath anymore but this verse seems to say that there will always be a sabbath

MY COMMENTS: To take a text out of its context can cause problems.

The verses you quoted (Matt. 24:20-21) are from the prophecy of Jesus concerning the coming tribulation.

In verse 15 he warns his people (Israel) that when they see the abomination that causes desolation standing in the holy place (temple), they should flee to the mountains etc.

Since this warning is for the Jews, they still will be honoring the Sabbath, and that would mean they could only travel a short distance. So, they might easily be caught by the Man-of-Sin (Anti-Christ) and persecuted, for he will set himself up as god to be worshipped.

Just as today, there is a 7th day of the week, which is the Sabbath, day of rest, to most Jews, and will be in the future.

We in the church/body of Christ are not bound to "keep the Sabbath." In fact, we are encouraged to deem all days holy to the Lord.

[notuptome]

For those who do not believe this is an endtimes event, this actually occurred during the total destruction of Jerusalem in 70A.D.

The sabbath relates because this was an event in Jewish history that hasn't been equalled in it's brutality for a single historical event. The holocaust was equally brutal, but not in the same timespan.

Time will tell. The temple has not been rebuilt yet. One thing for certain God has it right.

For the cause of Christ.
Roger

[notuptome]

So the sabbath is only for the jews, What about the rest of the 9 commanments?

What should we do? We cannot keep the commandments and if we offend the Law in one point we have offended the whole law. Christ has fulfilled the law. The law cannot produce righteousness. The substitutionary death of Christ has made grace available to me by faith and that by the word of God. Works can only frustrate grace not add to it. The law was given only to Israel and that because they asked for it. Why would anyone want to yoke themselves to the law which can only produce death?

For the cause of Christ.
Roger

[Reedan]

What should we do? We cannot keep the commandments and if we offend the Law in one point we have offended the whole law. Christ has fulfilled the law. The law cannot produce righteousness. The substitutionary death of Christ has made grace available to me by faith and that by the word of God. Works can only frustrate grace not add to it. The law was given only to Israel and that because they asked for it. Why would anyone want to yoke themselves to the law which can only produce death?

For the cause of Christ.
Roger

I know that the law won't save us and we can't keep it, But does that mean its ok to steal now? I know stealing is wrong, Maybe we mis-intepret what its saying

[NotMyOwn]

Time will tell. The temple has not been rebuilt yet. One thing for certain God has it right.

For the cause of Christ.
Roger

The emperor Titus desecrated the temple that existed at the time and destroyed all of Jerusalem.

[crossnote]

So the sabbath is only for the jews, What about the rest of the 9 commanments?

The Sabbath pertained to the old creation. But now as it is called today, we are invited to enter His rest...an eternal Sabbath.
Hebrews 4 is a good commentary on this. So in a sense the commandment still holds, and like all the Commands, they were fulfilled in Christ.

[crossnote]

For those who do not believe this is an endtimes event, this actually occurred during the total destruction of Jerusalem in 70A.D.

The sabbath relates because this was an event in Jewish history that hasn't been equalled in it's brutality for a single historical event. The holocaust was equally brutal, but not in the same timespan.

Did vss, 29,30 and 31 happen in 70 ad also??

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
(Mat 24:29-31)