Heirs According To The Promise?

[Firstfruits]

Why is it that if we are of the law that we are not heirs according to the promise of God?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Why is the promise of none effect through the law?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[-SEEKING-]

Because the promise was made by faith. There was no law. (No written law). Abraham received the promise before circumcision. Which is a sign of the law. Then after receiving the promise, then he received the mark of the covenant. But he believed first.

[chad]

Hi FirstFruits,

Galatians 3:5-29 explains it.

We are Heirs according to the promise. The law was added because of transgressions until the seed whom the promise had come. (Gal 3:19).

The law was put in charge to lead us to christ that we might be justified by faith. (Gal 3:24)

Jesus was the seed (Gal 3:16) and the promise is the Holy Spirit (Gal 3:14).

When we are baptized, we are baptized into Christ - clothed yourself with Christ (Gal 3:27)

If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the Promise (Gal 3:29)

Why is it that if we are of the law that we are not heirs according to the promise of God?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Why is the promise of none effect through the law?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[Firstfruits]

Because the promise was made by faith. There was no law. (No written law). Abraham received the promise before circumcision. Which is a sign of the law. Then after receiving the promise, then he received the mark of the covenant. But he believed first.

Thanks Seeking,

Why is the the promise made of none effect through the law?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[Firstfruits]

Hi FirstFruits,

We are Heirs according to the promise. The law was added because of transgressions until the seed whom the promise had come. (Gal 3:19).

The law was put in charge to lead us to christ that we might be justified by faith. (Gal 3:24)

If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the Promise (Gal 3:29)

Galatians 3:5-29 explains it better.

Thanks Chad,

Is it therefore only by faith in Christ that we are made heirs of the promise?

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

What therefore is the promise?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[chad]

The promise made to Abraham.

(Gen 17:7 NIV) I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

(Gal 3:14 NIV) He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

Thanks Chad,

Is it therefore only by faith in Christ that we are made heirs of the promise?

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

What therefore is the promise?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[Firstfruits]

The promise made to Abraham.

(Gen 17:7 NIV) I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

(Gal 3:14 NIV) He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

Thanks Chad,

Amen to the scriptures you have given.

(Gen 17:7 NIV) I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

(Gal 3:14 NIV) He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[ZAB]

Thanks Seeking,

Why is the the promise made of none effect through the law?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Because if they who were of the law obtained the promise, then there is no reason or place for faith. If the blessing is obtained through obedience to the law, then faith is made void and the whole method is subverted.

It is of faith, not of law, "to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of he law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all..." (Rom 4:16).

[chad]

You Welcome,

Galatians 4:22-31 is also a great study relating to Abraham and the law.

Thanks Chad,

Amen to the scriptures you have given.

(Gen 17:7 NIV) I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Fulfilled in Christ Jesus.

(Gal 3:14 NIV) He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[-SEEKING-]

Thanks Seeking,

Why is the the promise made of none effect through the law?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Well I'm no theologian but my best guess would be that if you try to do it on your own, by following the law, in essence you're saying you can do it without God's grace. So the promise of faith is then not worth much. Because you can do it on your own. (By the way when I say "you" I don't mean you specifically)

[Firstfruits]

Because if they who were of the law obtained the promise, then there is no reason or place for faith. If the blessing is obtained through obedience to the law, then faith is made void and the whole method is subverted.

It is of faith, not of law, "to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of he law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all..." (Rom 4:16).

Thanks Z Alan,

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[Firstfruits]

Well I'm no theologian but my best guess would be that if you try to do it on your own, by following the law, in essence you're saying you can do it without God's grace. So the promise of faith is then not worth much. Because you can do it on your own. (By the way when I say "you" I don't mean you specifically)

Thanks Seeking,

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[John146]

Why is it that if we are of the law that we are not heirs according to the promise of God?

Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Why is the promise of none effect through the law?

God bless you!

Firstfruits

Because if it was fulfilled through the law then faith would be made void (Rom 4:14) and it would not be by grace through faith in Christ.

[Firstfruits]

Because if it was fulfilled through the law then faith would be made void (Rom 4:14) and it would not be by grace through faith in Christ.

Thank you John,

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[chad]

Hi Seeking,

You make a very good point here regarding circumcision which can be missed. Circumcision came about through Gods promise to Abraham (Gen 17:11), but Abraham believed first and it was credited to him as righteousness (Gen 15:6).

Jesus fulfilled this as written in (Gal 3:14). This explains the dispute in the early church regarding Jews teaching that believers needed to be circumcised according to the custom of Moses (Acts 15:1-2).

This issue (Of Circumcision) bought Paul and Barnabas into a sharp dispute and debate that they had to see the Elders and Apostles in Jerusalum about this question.

Paul further speaks of this in his writings to Galatians with his dispute with Peter Gal 2:11-Gal 3:29.

In Jesus, the promise of Abraham is fulfilled and the law is fulfilled.

Because the promise was made by faith. There was no law. (No written law). Abraham received the promise before circumcision. Which is a sign of the law. Then after receiving the promise, then he received the mark of the covenant. But he believed first.