Why do unbelievers go to hell?

[David Taylor]

When did Christ become the first born among many brethern? What is the difference between that term and only begotten? When He was born of Mary, He was her first born, but the context in which the term is used by Paul suggests another event. Something else must have happened.

When Christ arose on the 3rd day, Christ became the firstborn of the glorified resurrection from the dead.
Colossians 1:15 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


Paul also calls Him by the similar term the firstfuit
"But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end" I Cor 15:20

[David Taylor]

Where does the Bible say that it was the punishment for ALL sin?

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us

Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Romans 3:24 Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins
I John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
I John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Hebrews 1:2 God Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree

Don't you think a normal man can handle that punishment to get heaven?

No it's completely impossible for a normal sinful man, only God manifest in the flesh as a perfect sinless man could do it.
Jesus said, If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:12

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[Henry]

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This cannot be so. What about Lazarus and Jairus' daughter and the son of the widow of Nain to name but a few? They were resurrected before Him, not so?

Is there a difference between birth and ressurection? Why is the term, born used and not ressurected?

[Henry]

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

2 Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us

Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Romans 3:24 Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins
I John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
I John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Hebrews 1:2 God Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree






No it's completely impossible for a normal sinful man, only God manifest in the flesh as a perfect sinless man could do it.
Jesus said, If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:12

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I know a lot of scriptures too. I can also quote (copy and paste) the Bible verbatim. What we need to think about is the interpretation of the quoted verses.

[Henry]

No it's completely impossible for a normal sinful man, only God manifest in the flesh as a perfect sinless man could do it.

Under the old covenant a dove or even a goat or a bull was sacrificed for a human being's sin. Why cannot a man then die for his own sin? Or even better, just go buy a bull and sacrifice it?

[David Taylor]

This cannot be so. What about Lazarus and Jairus' daughter and the son of the widow of Nain to name but a few? They were resurrected before Him, not so?

Is there a difference between birth and ressurection? Why is the term, born used and not ressurected?

They Were raised back to normal mortal life with normal bodies.
Jesus was the firstborn from the dead with a glorified, incorruptible, immortal
body...that all humanity awaits to receive at His Return.

[David Taylor]

Under the old covenant a dove or even a goat or a bull was sacrificed for a human being's sin. Why cannot a man then die for his own sin? Or even better, just go buy a bull and sacrifice it?

They were only foreshadows pointing forward to Christ's sacrifice that takes any sin.

Hebrews 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever

[Henry]

They Were raised back to normal mortal life with normal bodies.
Jesus was the firstborn from the dead with a glorified, incorruptible, immortal
body...that all humanity awaits to receive at His Return.

He had His earthly body when He invited Thomas to touch Him. He could still show the wounds that He sustained during the ordeal. Whether they were still bloody, I do not know, but that is not a glorified body like when He was glorified on the Mountain with Moses and Elijah.

[Henry]

They were only foreshadows pointing forward to Christ's sacrifice that takes any sin.

I am writing this with the utmost respect. What is so special about the blood of Christ then? Did/does it have a different chemical composition from other humans?

[Vhayes]

This cannot be so. What about Lazarus and Jairus' daughter and the son of the widow of Nain to name but a few? They were resurrected before Him, not so?

Is there a difference between birth and ressurection? Why is the term, born used and not ressurected?

In the course of time. the widow's son died again. Lazarus died again. Jesus will never die nor will our bodies once we have been resurrected.

[Henry]

In the course of time. the widow's son died again. Lazarus died again. Jesus will never die nor will our bodies once we have been resurrected.

How many times was Christ born then?

[Henry]

What does it really really mean "to be made sin"? On the other hand, What does it really really mean "to be made the righteousness of God"?

[David Taylor]

He had His earthly body when He invited Thomas to touch Him. He could still show the wounds that He sustained during the ordeal. Whether they were still bloody, I do not know, but that is not a glorified body like when He was glorified on the Mountain with Moses and Elijah.

Sure it was glorified...he chose in His glorification, to retain the nail-scared wounds...a beautiful reminder of His love and suffering for us for all eternity.

His post-resurrection body wasn't the same body as before; it was changed like ours will be changed at our bodily resurrection. In this body He could choose to appear as Himself, or in an unknown personage, He could walk through closed doors, appear and disappear at will; change venues from Jerusalem to Galilee instantly, fly up through the clouds of the atmosphere.

Jesus' post-resurrection body was much different than anything we can or ever will understand this side of Heaven.

[David Taylor]

I am writing this with the utmost respect. What is so special about the blood of Christ then? Did/does it have a different chemical composition from other humans?

Yes, it did/does have a different chemical composition from other humans.

It was completely free and devoid of sin. Perfect. Spotless. Blameless. Undefiled.

The only blood that could be sacrificially spilled for another, and cleanse others from all unrighteousness.

Hebrews 9:12 "Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"

Colossians 1:19 "For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself"

Ephesians 1:7 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins"

Colossians 1:14 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins"

I John 1:7 "the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

[David Taylor]

How many times was Christ born then?

Firstborn doesn't been nativity childbirth, in the context of Christ being "the firstborn from the dead".

It means first as in order, like firstfruits, or first of a kind.

The only two times in the N.T. that 'firstborn' is used to denote childbirth, were Matt 1:25 and Luke 2:7 regarding Christ's childbirth.

All other N.T. references of firstborn are in regards to His being the firstborn from the dead; the one who set the pattern in resurrection of what we His followers will later participate in at the final Great Resurrection Day at His return.