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    What IS the gospel of Christ?

    Most professing Christians are not aware that the phrase "the gospel of Christ" is used ONLY by Paul. That is because it is different from the gospel of the Kingdom and the gospel of the circumcision in that it deals with Christianity and NOT Judaism.

    The gospel of Christ is the body of truth entrusted to Paul by Christ RISEN from the dead, and has to do with the salvation of both jew and gentile by GRACE thru faith in the finished work of Christ.

    How can we cooperate with God if we are not aware of what the gospel of OUR salvation IS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by His4shur View Post
    Most professing Christians are not aware that the phrase "the gospel of Christ" is used ONLY by Paul. That is because it is different from the gospel of the Kingdom and the gospel of the circumcision in that it deals with Christianity and NOT Judaism.

    The gospel of Christ is the body of truth entrusted to Paul by Christ RISEN from the dead, and has to do with the salvation of both jew and gentile by GRACE thru faith in the finished work of Christ.

    How can we cooperate with God if we are not aware of what the gospel of OUR salvation IS?
    Ok then why don't you tell us what you think the gospel of Christ is...you are leading up to something here so just tell us what it is please..thanks.

    God bless
    "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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    The Lord Jesus Christ personally commissioned 12 men to preach the gospel of the KINGDOM. These 12 men are better known as the 12 disciples or 12 apostles. A detailed account of THEIR commission is contained in Matthew 10:5-42

    THEY were to go to the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL, and NOT to the GENTILES/ preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. THEY were enowed with miraculous powers which were the divine credentials of THEIR ministry. After the resurrection of Christ, He renewed and enlarged their commission according to Mt. 28:19,20; Mark 16:15-18, and in Acts 1:8. The message still remained the same, as Peter well knew. It was Judaism.

    Under Christianity, the Lord Jesus Christ personally commissioned ONE man to preach the gospel of the grace of God, or the gospel of Christ. This man is better known as the apostle Paul.

    The message he preached concerned Gods purpose for the Gentiles in THIS AGE, and Paul called himself the Apostle of the Gentiles (rom. 11:13) Gods COMPLETE purpose and will for THIS Age was recealed to Paul, and was written down in his epistles under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit (2 Tim 3:16)

    We, in turn, are commissioned to preache THIS MESSAGE and NOT the Kingdom Gospel. Our marching orders and contained in 2 Cor 5:14-21...we are AMBASSADORS for Christ with the Word of reconciliation, and in Eph 3:9 - to make ALL men see what is the Dispensation of the MYSTERY.

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    They are one in the same.

    To try to make a difference in the two is about like saying that the Disciples disobeyed Jesus because Jesus told the that they were to be baptized in the Holy Spirit and Acts tells us that they were filled with the Holy Spirit.

    Did Jesus lie about it?

    Were the disciples disobedient?

    Hardly. Different writer, different translator, different choice of words. Nothing more.
    For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived? ~ Deuteronomy 5:26

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    Sorry Urban....that is simply NOT the case. Judaism had to do with the law of Moses and Gods dealings with a NATION with whom He had a covenant/marriage relationship.

    Christianity has to do with the sufficiency of the finished Crosswork of Christ and tells of Gods dealings with a NEW CREATION, comprised of jew and gentile alike under the gospel of the GRACE of God.

    Two different belief systems; two callings, two sets of promises and two very different destinations.

    You guys really DO need to study.

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    Galatians 3:28
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


    The bible clearly tells us that the message of salvation was first brought to the Jews who rejected it and Christ...then it went to the gentiles. Same message. Why would Jesus teach the Jews something they already knew?

    The disciples ended up preaching to both the Jews and the gentiles...the Christians churches were made up of both...once they believed in Jesus, then we are all one in Him.

    Please don't insult us with you guys need to study the bible...we do! But some come up with with gospel of Pauline... You won't be a member around here too long with that idea...

    Pauline Christianity

    Pauline Christianity is a term used to refer to a branch of Early Christianity associated with the beliefs and doctrines espoused by Paul the Apostle through his writings. Most of orthodox Christianity relies heavily on these teachings and considers them to be amplifications and explanations of the teachings of Jesus. Others perceive in Paul's writings teachings that are radically different from the original teachings of Jesus documented in the canonical gospels, early Acts and the rest of the New Testament, such as the Epistle of James. The term is generally considered a pejorative by traditionalist Christians as it carries the implication that Christianity as it is known is a corruption of the original teachings of Jesus, as for example in the belief of a Great Apostasy.


    Here you are a new member and come on here and attack us ..that is certainly not even scriptural either. If you want to correct us (assuming things as you do) at least follow the bible's teachings on that..with love! Not put downs...

    God bless
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    What IS the gospel of Christ?

    Quote Originally Posted by His4shur View Post
    Most professing Christians are not aware that the phrase "the gospel of Christ" is used ONLY by Paul. That is because it is different from the gospel of the Kingdom and the gospel of the circumcision in that it deals with Christianity and NOT Judaism.

    The gospel of Christ is the body of truth entrusted to Paul by Christ RISEN from the dead, and has to do with the salvation of both jew and gentile by GRACE thru faith in the finished work of Christ.

    How can we cooperate with God if we are not aware of what the gospel of OUR salvation IS?
    The truth of Christ.

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    Dear Moonglow,

    The disciples never preached to ONE single gentile. They were told by Jesus NOT TO. They were to go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Peter went to ONE gentile when God dragged him kicking and screaming, and never went to another.

    Seems you don't know your bible too well, to make statements such as those.

    The 12 preached to the Nation of Israel. They preached JUDAISM.

    Christianity was NOT preached until AFTER Paul was saved on the road to Damascus.

    I'm sorry if the truth offends you, but you are operating in religious mayhem and NOT in sound biblical doctrine.

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    THE GOSPEL: Pure, and simple

    1Corinthians 15:3
    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that
    Christ died for our sins according to scriptures;
    And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day, according to scriptures.

    And that he was seen of Cephas, then the twelve.
    After that he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once.

    In our court of law;
    Where two or three are eye witnesses a thing is established.
    Here we have over 500 eye witnesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keturah View Post
    THE GOSPEL: Pure, and simple

    1Corinthians 15:3
    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that
    Christ died for our sins according to scriptures;
    And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day, according to scriptures.

    And that he was seen of Cephas, then the twelve.
    After that he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once.

    In our court of law;
    Where two or three are eye witnesses a thing is established.
    Here we have over 500 eye witnesses.
    This is absolutely correct, Keturah, and it is ONLY found in Pauls writings.

    This is the gospel of OUR salvation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by His4shur View Post
    Dear Moonglow,

    The disciples never preached to ONE single gentile. They were told by Jesus NOT TO. They were to go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Peter went to ONE gentile when God dragged him kicking and screaming, and never went to another.

    Seems you don't know your bible too well, to make statements such as those.

    The 12 preached to the Nation of Israel. They preached JUDAISM.

    Christianity was NOT preached until AFTER Paul was saved on the road to Damascus.

    I'm sorry if the truth offends you, but you are operating in religious mayhem and NOT in sound biblical doctrine.
    Er...this isn't how I understood your first post...I am not talking about who preached what when, I am saying the gospel is the same for everyone...you say there are two seperate gospel messages..

    But if you want to get into that also..ok:

    Matthew 4
    Jesus Begins His Galilean Ministry

    12 Now when Jesus heard that John had been put in prison, He departed to Galilee. 13 And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is by the sea, in the regions of Zebulun and Naphtali, 14 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying:
    15 “ The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,
    By the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan,
    Galilee of the Gentiles:
    16 The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light,
    And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death
    Light has dawned.”

    17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”


    http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/vi...mt&chapter=004
    Verse 13. And leaving Nazareth
    Or, entirely leaving Nazareth, καικαταλιπωντηνναζαρετ, from κατα, intensive, and δειπω, I leave. It seems that, from this time, our blessed Lord made Capernaum his ordinary place of residence; and utterly forsook Nazareth, because they had wholly rejected his word, and even attempted to take away his life. See Luke 4:29.

    Galilee was bounded by mount Lebanon on the north, by the river Jordan and the sea of Galilee on the east, by Chison on the south, and by the Mediterranean on the west.

    Nazareth, a little city in the tribe of Zebulon, in lower Galilee, with Tabor on the east, and Ptolemais on the west. It is supposed that this city was the usual residence of our Lord for the first thirty years of his life. It was here he became incarnate, lived in subjection to Joseph and Mary, and from which he took the name of a Nazorean.

    Capernaum, a city famous in the New Testament, but never mentioned in the Old. Probably it was one of those cities which the Jews built after their return from Babylon. It stood on the sea-coast of Galilee, on the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim, as mentioned in the text. This was called his own city, Matthew 9:1, Matthew 17:24. Among the Jews, if a man became a resident in any city for twelve months, he thereby became a citizen, and paid his proportion of dues and taxes. See Lightfoot. Capernaum is well known to have been the principal scene of our Lord's miracles during the three years of his public ministry.

    Zabulon, the country of this tribe, in which Nazareth and Capernaum were situated, bordered on the lake of Gennesareth, stretching to the frontiers of Sidon, Genesis 49:13. Nephthalim was contiguous to it, and both were on the east side of Jordan, Joshua 19:34.

    Verse 15. Galilee of the Gentiles

    Or of the nations. So called, because it was inhabited by Egyptians, Arabians, and Phoenicians, according to the testimony of Strabo and others. The Hebrew goyim, and the Greek εθνων, signify nations; and, in the Old and New Testaments, mean those people who were not descendants of any of the twelve tribes. The word Gentiles, from gens, a nation, signifies the same. It is worthy of remark, that it was a regular tradition among the ancient Jews, that the Messiah should begin his ministry in Galilee. See the proofs in Schoetgen.

    Here is a link to all the scripture with gentiles in it so you can do your own study on it:http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/...&limit=bookset

    God bless
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    What I am saying, Moonglow is that the Bible records TWO God given belief systems: Judaism and Christianity.

    Peter and the 12, and Jesus when on the earth, taught Judaism to the Nation of Israel EXCLUSIVELY.

    Paul taught "the preaching of Jesus Christ ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY which was KEPT SECRET since the world began.." Rom 16:25

    These ARE two separate gospels. Gospel simply means good news and God did NOT reveal all of it at the same time.

    We are under ONLY ONE gospel today and that is the gospel of the GRACE of God. This was preached ONLY by Paul and not by Peter and the 12. They didn't KNOW this gospel, as it was HID IN GOD until revealed unto Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by His4shur View Post
    What I am saying, Moonglow is that the Bible records TWO God given belief systems: Judaism and Christianity.

    Peter and the 12, and Jesus when on the earth, taught Judaism to the Nation of Israel EXCLUSIVELY.

    Paul taught "the preaching of Jesus Christ ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY which was KEPT SECRET since the world began.." Rom 16:25

    These ARE two separate gospels. Gospel simply means good news and God did NOT reveal all of it at the same time.

    We are under ONLY ONE gospel today and that is the gospel of the GRACE of God. This was preached ONLY by Paul and not by Peter and the 12. They didn't KNOW this gospel, as it was HID IN GOD until revealed unto Paul.
    You know it might be a bit more helpful if you posted scriptures to back up what you are saying. Again...why would Jesus teach the Jews something they already knew? Why do you think when He died on the cross the temple curtain was torn into if He wanted them to remain in Judaism following the OT laws?

    Matthew 27
    51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, 52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.
    54 So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!”


    Adam Clarks bible commentary
    Verse 51. The veil of the temple was rent
    That is, the veil which separated the holy place, where the priests ministered, from the holy of holies, into which the high priest only entered, and that once a year, to make a general expiation for the sins of the people. This rending of the veil was emblematical, and pointed out that the separation between Jews and Gentiles was now abolished, and that the privilege of the high priest was now communicated to all mankind: ALL might henceforth have access to the throne of grace, through the one great atonement and mediator, the Lord Jesus. See this beautifully illustrated in Hebrews 10:19-22.

    Why would the disciples tell the Jews they were no long bound to the law? Paul said this...

    All of us, including the Jews, can now come to God themselves, they don't need a priest to intervene for them since Christ was our high priest.

    Both Jesus and Paul tell us to pray directly to God.

    Matthew 6:8-10 (New King James Version)

    8 “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 9 In this manner, therefore, pray:

    Our Father in heaven,
    Hallowed be Your name.
    10 Your kingdom come.
    Your will be done
    On earth as it is in heaven.


    Romans 8:14-16 (New King James Version)

    14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,


    God bless
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    I'm not understanding you when you say, "Jesus never preached to the Gentiles". He went into Samaria and spoke with a Samaritan woman......very taboo in His day. Jesus ate with sinners (I would assume these were non-Jews since the Pharisees didn't approve of who He was eating with). Even God's promise to Abraham that he would be the father of many nations (Jews and Gentiles) was a promise given prior to the law or nation of Israel. God's plan has always been to incorporate both Jews and Gentiles into the fold of Christianity.

    What you seem to be describing is a timeline. The Jews were preached to first then the Gentiles. Why would there be two gospels just because someone heard the word of God preached first?
    Find rest, O my soul, in God alone; my hope comes from Him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by His4shur View Post
    Most professing Christians are not aware that the phrase "the gospel of Christ" is used ONLY by Paul. That is because it is different from the gospel of the Kingdom and the gospel of the circumcision in that it deals with Christianity and NOT Judaism.

    The gospel of Christ is the body of truth entrusted to Paul by Christ RISEN from the dead, and has to do with the salvation of both jew and gentile by GRACE thru faith in the finished work of Christ.
    Sorry friend, sounds like you've bought into the teaching of Pauline Hyper-dispensationalism; which teaches there are many gospels.

    There is only one; and the gospel of Jesus Christ is the only gospel; regardless of what phrasing is used to refer to it as.

    Mark 1:1 "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets"

    Mark 16:15 "And Jesus said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

    What Gospel message did Jesus say the OT prophets and Scriptures taught, right before He ascended back up into Heaven, long before Paul taught anything concerning Him?

    Luke 24:25 Then Jesus said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things."

    The one and only gospel...the by His dead, burial, and resurrection, repentence and remission of sin is available, in Jerusalem, Judaea, and all the ends of the Earth!

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