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    What exactly is wrong with Astrology? I understand you should put your faith in Christ and he'll give you the answer, but is it not possible that he answers us through the heavens.

    Within the Bible, the stars and constellations are shown to be very important on several occasions, one being the wise men following the north STAR to Bethlehem to see Jesus.

    Now, I don't know everything about Astrology, just that it has to do with reading signs through the stars and that our Zodiac and Horoscopes are based on it rawly. I do occasionally read my Horoscope, and it tends to be true.

    Someone please shine some light on this situation.

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    You are correct in saying that we are to place our focus on Jesus. The wise men in the New Testament were learned men who heard of the prophecies and measured the stars, somewhat like a modern day astronomer because they wanted to find Jesus. They did not rely on the location of stars to determine their destiny.

    God is the only one who knows your destiny. He does this through prayer and His word; not through the heavens. When we seek after astrology or horoscopes then we are not focusing on Him. Horoscopes do work most of the time. Anything vague enough will work. Even when you flip a coin, you have a 50% chance of coming out correct. My horoscope today could have read, "You are going to have a productive day with people you enjoy". Does that tell you anything about my day---no. Had I read that beforehand it could mean anything. I was able to do 3 loads of laundry with my kids around (I enjoy them) or I could have had a productive day at work and enjoyed my coworkers. But this vague statement means nothing and proves nothing.

    Astrology has links to numerology, tarot card, feng shui and other things that are SATANIC in origin. When encountering anything like this.....RUN--Forest--RUN. If you have been involved with things like this you need to get with a pastor and discuss this with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
    You are correct in saying that we are to place our focus on Jesus. The wise men in the New Testament were learned men who heard of the prophecies and measured the stars, somewhat like a modern day astronomer because they wanted to find Jesus. They did not rely on the location of stars to determine their destiny.

    God is the only one who knows your destiny. He does this through prayer and His word; not through the heavens. When we seek after astrology or horoscopes then we are not focusing on Him. Horoscopes do work most of the time. Anything vague enough will work. Even when you flip a coin, you have a 50% chance of coming out correct. My horoscope today could have read, "You are going to have a productive day with people you enjoy". Does that tell you anything about my day---no. Had I read that beforehand it could mean anything. I was able to do 3 loads of laundry with my kids around (I enjoy them) or I could have had a productive day at work and enjoyed my coworkers. But this vague statement means nothing and proves nothing.

    Astrology has links to numerology, tarot card, feng shui and other things that are SATANIC in origin. When encountering anything like this.....RUN--Forest--RUN. If you have been involved with things like this you need to get with a pastor and discuss this with them.
    Thanks, but I'm not involved in them. I only read my horoscope when I'm bored and run across it in the paper.

    I do think that people with similar birthdays and names do have things in common though. Grab one of those books that explain something about you based on your name and read it. You can also buy a full pop-out Zodiac book and read the traits for your zodiac in it. Mine were on the dot, but I read some of the others and they were far off from me. This leads me to believe that the Zodiac symbols categorize us well in determining our personality outcome.

    The zodiac could be based on scientific study too and not just some fortune teller star thing. Weird how it all works out though.

    I don't RELY on any of this though, but I have read some of it when I was diddling around at the book store. New age stuff is pretty cool, regardless of if it is true or not.

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    New Age stuff is also something to avoid. Satan works are deceptive. He works to get his foot in the door of your heart. He is patient and will wait you out. When we do/see/look into all the things that go against God then we are putting ourselves in Satan's path. As Christians we are called to guard our hearts.
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    I do think that people with similar birthdays and names do have things in common though. Grab one of those books that explain something about you based on your name and read it. You can also buy a full pop-out Zodiac book and read the traits for your zodiac in it. Mine were on the dot, but I read some of the others and they were far off from me.
    It is human nature to remember the hits and forget the misses, because it would be nice and easy to have a medium tell us what will happen. But putting one's faith in horoscopes and other things like this is not only idolatrous, its stupid (no offense).

    This leads me to believe that the Zodiac symbols categorize us well in determining our personality outcome.
    Google "cold reading". If I say you have someone who is very important in your life whose name begins with "S" and you have some dreams that you feel are farfetched and unrealistic, there is an 80% change this will be right. This is how psychics make their money. Generic statements.

    The zodiac could be based on scientific study too and not just some fortune teller star thing. Weird how it all works out though.
    It isn't.

    I don't RELY on any of this though, but I have read some of it when I was diddling around at the book store. New age stuff is pretty cool, regardless of if it is true or not.
    The Bible is much cooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Jake View Post
    Someone please shine some light on this situation.
    Astronomy, which is the opposite of what you are talking about, is a great and true science. And the Bible support real science. The Bible is full of references to stars. Several constellations are mentioned in the book of Job. God guided Abraham to observe the stars as a reminder of His promise for unlimited descendants. In Genesis, God made the stars to mark the "signs" and "seasons". People learned how to plant by observing the night sky and they learned to navigate the seas that way, too.

    The stars speak of God's majesty and wonder in MANY places in the Bible.

    We don't really know what the "star" was that the Wise Men followed. Something that moves across the sky, we know today, is not a star. I used to teach my 8th graders that early Greeks watched some of the "stars" that moved instead of being fixed in constellations and called them "planetes", which means "wanderer". We call them planets.

    But, Master Jake, none of this is astrology.

    Astrology is a grievous, grievous sin. It is the assumption that the stars, themselves, decree man's fate and destiny. And that whatever the night sky looked like when you were born determines your fate.

    It's very similar to witchcraft. It's placing yourself under the divine inspiration of something other than God.

    For the Christian, our divine inspiration comes from the Holy Spirit. To seek divine guidance elsewhere, according to the Bible, is idolatry and sin.

    In Deuteronomy 4:14-19, God says to be very careful NOT to corrupt yourself and He gives a few examples. Placing your trust in the sun, moon, and stars is the example He gives in verse 19.

    Horoscopes tend to be "true" because they are so generally written. If someone writes for all the people born in January, "today, you will find a new job", don't you think out of all the hundreds of thousands of people who were born in January and who read horoscopes that at least one of them, by sheer mathematical statistics alone, will be finding a new job that day?

    Yes, horoscopes come true sometimes. But it is coincidence and NOT divine destiny exerted upon us by the stars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
    New Age stuff is also something to avoid. Satan works are deceptive. He works to get his foot in the door of your heart. He is patient and will wait you out. When we do/see/look into all the things that go against God then we are putting ourselves in Satan's path. As Christians we are called to guard our hearts.
    Yes, so says Proverbs 4:23.

    "Above all else, guard your heart ..... for it affects EVERYTHING you do."
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    Relax, I don't put my faith into stars, geeze. Just asking a question.

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    You're asking a lot of strange questions though, this last few days. And I do mean a LOT. One or two random oddnesses people can put down to your youth. But a sudden flurry of questions about ghosts, witchcraft, goddesses, astrology... you can see why people are concerned.
    Please could everyone pray for Mieke and Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Jake View Post
    What exactly is wrong with Astrology? I understand you should put your faith in Christ and he'll give you the answer, but is it not possible that he answers us through the heavens.

    Within the Bible, the stars and constellations are shown to be very important on several occasions, one being the wise men following the north STAR to Bethlehem to see Jesus.

    Now, I don't know everything about Astrology, just that it has to do with reading signs through the stars and that our Zodiac and Horoscopes are based on it rawly. I do occasionally read my Horoscope, and it tends to be true.

    Someone please shine some light on this situation.
    If your horoscope is true it's because it's written in such generic terms it could mean anything. Look at your population - if you live in the US you're looking at a national population of some 300,000,000 people. That means something like 25,000,000 people in each star sign. Can you honestly think anything the size of a newspaper horoscope can talk to 25 million people in any detail without being so vague it could match anything?

    But, on a far more serious note, astrology is wrong because God says so. That's really all we need to know

    Deu 18:10-12 NKJV There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, (11) or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. (12) For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you.
    1Jn 4:1 NKJV Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    1Th 5:21-22 NKJV Test all things; hold fast what is good. (22) Abstain from every form of evil.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Jake View Post

    I don't RELY on any of this though, but I have read some of it when I was diddling around at the book store. New age stuff is pretty cool, regardless of if it is true or not.
    New age stuff is NOT cool, it is satanic and looks appealing but can seriously hurt you. Test EVERYTHING you read against scripture.

    Please get away from this garbage. It is not safe. Listen to what the other posters are saying. Do you want to fill your mind and life with truth, or with garbage? I'm praying for you.
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