Joel's Army - Another Cult ... ???

[shepherdsword]

While I agree with the concern expressed in #1 I strongly caution anyone from adopting a position that conducting intercessory prayer for a city or a nation is worthless.


I have seen it work.

That being said I am against a "dominionist" position that is based on some word of faith heresy.

However, I have seen to much in the Spirit realm to throw all supernatural intervention by God under a heading of "witchcraft"
( this is in response to the youtube link that was posted)

[Quickened]

Yeah ... Todd Bentley is definitely a wacko in the first degree ... !!!

I watched an interview with TB, and he is getting ready to do a comeback .... After taking a year off.

I suspect we will see more bizarre stuff with Todd and friends .... (Paul Cain, Cindy Jacobs, Stacey Cambell, Patricia King, Che An, and many, many, many, many, many others .... ).

I take it he took some time off from his divorce?

[vja4Him]

Because they're told what they want to hear; it's always been that way.

Exactly ...

2 Timothy 4:3, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears."

[Quickened]

At this point its almost beyond "itching". You'd have to have plugged ears to follow this

[vja4Him]

I would agree that praying for a city or a country is not worthless. The Bible even tells us to pray for our leaders, and be obedient to them. However, as Christians, dedicated to the Living God, we should know that there is a fine line, where we may at times need to be disobedient ...

The problem I've seen with some churches, is that they go to the extreme, and wrongly interpret the scriptures, misapply the scriptures, and claim things that are not true ...

I've been involved with churches that walk around the town, actually claiming the very bricks! I think that is extemism ....

Wickedness will abound, that is guarenteed, and we can nothing to stop what the Bible says will happen.

While I agree with the concern expressed in #1 I strongly caution anyone from adopting a position that conducting intercessory prayer for a city or a nation is worthless.


I have seen it work.

That being said I am against a "dominionist" position that is based on some word of faith heresy.

However, I have seen to much in the Spirit realm to throw all supernatural intervention by God under a heading of "witchcraft"
( this is in response to the youtube link that was posted)

[Desperaux]

While I agree with the concern expressed in #1 I strongly caution anyone from adopting a position that conducting intercessory prayer for a city or a nation is worthless.


I have seen it work.

That being said I am against a "dominionist" position that is based on some word of faith heresy.

However, I have seen to much in the Spirit realm to throw all supernatural intervention by God under a heading of "witchcraft"
( this is in response to the youtube link that was posted)

I agree. There is far too many alarmist stuff on YouTube. We need to hear from the horse's mouth--in other words--find the source of this movement.

So far it seems to be a teaching that equips people, and kids too, for spiritual warfare--donning one's spiritual armour and standing one's ground against the enemy.

We are in a battle.

[dan]

According to this article, Todd Bentley is leading Joel's Army:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-army-and-call

...I'd be cautious about believing info from a site that promotes abortion.

But then I'm a biased right-winger.