I have found the word of God!

[Possibly]

I have recently read the first installment of "Conversations with God."

I'm curious if anyone here as read it and what their view of it is.

[Athanasius]

Wasn't there a scandal with the author? As for myself, haven't read it.

[Diggindeeper]

Possibly, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but no, you have not found the Word of God. Please throw that in the trash where it belongs, and grab a REAL Bible. I urge you to do this, friend.

[Dani H]

It's very New Age-y.

Meaning it has nothing to do with the actual God of the Bible.

[th1bill]

... I, also, urge you to toss the book ad to read the Bible. No, I have no need of such a book when I hold the truth in my hand, the Bible.

[tango]

I have recently read the first installment of "Conversations with God."

I'm curious if anyone here as read it and what their view of it is.

First off, you haven't found the word of God. I was reading that stuff a few years back and it all sounds very nice, very soothing, very convenient.

But I'll recommend you do what I did as soon as I became a Christian and that's to get rid of it. My copy went through the shredder because I didn't want anyone else reading it.

If you want to read the word of God get yourself a Bible and read that instead. What you're reading now is the writing of a badly misguided person.

[Diggindeeper]

Here are a few excerpts: (Walsch said God talked to him, over his shoulder.)

Walsch says the voice told him that God is everything and everything is God. Therefore, we humans are “God.” Everyone around you is simply “you” in a different form, and we are all “God.”

Here, Walsch is repeating one of Satan’s original lies, “You will be as God” (Genesis 3:5).

Walsch also claims that all life is eternal. Death is “the great illusion.” There is no judgment, no punishment, and no hell, for there is no reason for any of that—there is no sin. After death, a person goes to a different level of existence in order to “continue the evolution of the human soul.”

This teaching is in direct conflict with Hebrews 9:27 and many other passages of scripture that teach the reality of judgment after death.

Walsch’s defense of Hitler’s actions are in line with his teaching of relativism: Hitler might be called “evil,” but only “within the context of our human experience.” And Hitler was commissioned by God “to show humanity to itself for the purpose of lifting humanity above what it had become and what it had sunk to” (Larry King interview).

Therefore, to Walsch, Hitler was just another thread of material that's called humanity, and was necessary to help us move forward.

According to him, there is no right way to live or one way to come to God. There are many ways, and all of them are equally valid. All the gods of various religions are really the same “God.”

The One True God disagrees with Walsch: “ Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘ I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God” (Isaiah 44:6).

This is all horrible teaching!

[Sold Out]

I urge you to get rid of it as well.

[Possibly]

Here are a few excerpts: (Walsch said God talked to him, over his shoulder.)

Walsch says the voice told him that God is everything and everything is God. Therefore, we humans are “God.” Everyone around you is simply “you” in a different form, and we are all “God.”

Wait, God is perfect. Did not God create us in God's own likeness and image? Did not God breathe life from himself into us?

Here, Walsch is repeating one of Satan’s original lies, “You will be as God” (Genesis 3:5).

Walsch also claims that all life is eternal. Death is “the great illusion.” There is no judgment, no punishment, and no hell, for there is no reason for any of that—there is no sin. After death, a person goes to a different level of existence in order to “continue the evolution of the human soul.”

This teaching is in direct conflict with Hebrews 9:27 and many other passages of scripture that teach the reality of judgment after death.

If God is perfect why would God not create a perfect system? Why is judgment required?

Walsch’s defense of Hitler’s actions are in line with his teaching of relativism: Hitler might be called “evil,” but only “within the context of our human experience.” And Hitler was commissioned by God “to show humanity to itself for the purpose of lifting humanity above what it had become and what it had sunk to” (Larry King interview).

Therefore, to Walsch, Hitler was just another thread of material that's called humanity, and was necessary to help us move forward.

Is it not true that people today still look at Hitler and Germany's action in shock and surprise not understanding, not believe that such horrible events could be possible? There are still quite a number of people who deny the holocaust even happened claiming "it's impossible."

According to him, there is no right way to live or one way to come to God. There are many ways, and all of them are equally valid. All the gods of various religions are really the same “God.”

The One True God disagrees with Walsch: “ Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘ I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God” (Isaiah 44:6).

This is all horrible teaching!

Exactly? "I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God”
God is the first and the last. God is the alpha and the omega. How does that not mean that God is not everything?

[moonglow]

Possibly;2193222]Wait, God is perfect. Did not God create us in God's own likeness and image? Did not God breathe life from himself into us?

God is made up of three parts..the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit..likewise we are made up of three parts also.. 1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

If God is perfect why would God not create a perfect system? Why is judgment required?

He did, but we choose to sin...that is why judgment comes into play..we rebelled against Him.

Is it not true that people today still look at Hitler and Germany's action in shock and surprise not understanding, not believe that such horrible events could be possible? There are still quite a number of people who deny the holocaust even happened claiming "it's impossible."

Exactly? "I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God”
God is the first and the last. God is the alpha and the omega. How does that not mean that God is not everything?

How is saying He is the first and last...meaning He is eternal go from that to being in everything when it simply doesn't say that at all. That is quite a leap actually.

If we are gods we have to be the worse ones ever..we get sick..we kill each other...we war with each other, we are cruel and unkind to the poor...the orphans...we do little to improve our world but instead tear it down and populate it. We tend to only love those that love us and are quick to get back at others. The list is long and horrible actually...we certainly don't do anything supernatural in helping others...we certainly fall short of anyone's idea of what a god can do!

[Possibly]

God is made up of three parts..the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit..likewise we are made up of three parts also.. 1 Thessalonians 5:23
Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely; and may your whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I agree as three is a holy number which is repeated all through creation. Ex: Mind, Body, Spirit.

He did, but we choose to sin...that is why judgment comes into play..we rebelled against Him.

That does not make sense. If God created a perfect system then one could not rebel against it because you are part of the system and thus would be created perfectly as well.

How is saying He is the first and last...meaning He is eternal go from that to being in everything when it simply doesn't say that at all. That is quite a leap actually.

God does not say what God is the first and last of? Simply that God is the first and last. But why would God specify when maybe the best way to describe God is simply, God Is. Is not God the Great I-Am? We are only assuming that God is referring to time.

If we are gods we have to be the worse ones ever..we get sick..we kill each other...we war with each other, we are cruel and unkind to the poor...the orphans...we do little to improve our world but instead tear it down and populate it. We tend to only love those that love us and are quick to get back at others. The list is long and horrible actually...we certainly don't do anything supernatural in helping others...we certainly fall short of anyone's idea of what a god can do!

Well that's a big point of the book. We have the power to change our lives but are too afraid to take responsibility. This is not bad though it simply is.

[daughter]

Oh my goodness, you're reading THAT nonsense?

Believe me, this is not the word of God. It's feel good poisonous pulp, and it's obvious that it's taken you in hook line and sinker.

I know from when I was involved in the occult that this stuff is persuasive, and feels right... but the Bible says, "there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death."

Seriously... this is a repackaged version of the oldest lie. "You will be as God," and "ye shall not surely die."

I know for a fact that I am not God. I know for a fact that suffering is real, death is real, sin is real. I know that I cannot save myself, and I thank God that He did, and He can... and He can save you too. Jesus died to save sinners, people like us, like me and you.

Like you, I once believed (despite every shred of evidence to the contrary) that humans were "good really", that we were all somehow part of the god flow.

It's an ABSOLUTE LIE. I'm not saying this man didn't hear a voice telling him this crap. (Sorry for the word, but that's what it is.) But whatever voice he heard, it was a god of this world, a devil, and not the God Who made the Heavens and the Earth, and Who will judge us all one day, according to HIS perfect standard, not our feel good platitudes and vapid pap.

Ask yourself this... why can you read this, gulp it down like water... and you can't read the Bible?

I know you'll say you've read the Bible, but I know for a fact, from where you are spiritually right now, that just as I couldn't read the Bible when I was a witch, so you can't read the Bible now.

Sit down, try to read it, and see what happens. If you're anything like as lost as I was, you'll find yourself feeling angry, sick, and you may even throw it out.

The Bible is the word of God. What you have is the devil's lie.

[markedward]

I think I saw a movie that dramatized the author's life and how he came up with the book. If I remember, the author injured his neck, lost his job, lived on the streets, became a DJ, bought a little house, lost his job, then was convinced that 'god' spoke to him.

The book's overall premise is that all "god" desires is for man to be "happy". It's premise is moral relativism, which is ultimately self-contradicting, and fails.

[tango]

Wait, God is perfect. Did not God create us in God's own likeness and image? Did not God breathe life from himself into us?

He certainly did. But making us in his image doesn't mean we are God. If I made a model of myself it wouldn't be me.

Being like God is the lie that Satan sold Eve in the garden of Eden.

If God is perfect why would God not create a perfect system? Why is judgment required?

God did create a perfect system, but man chose to mess things up. Eve chose to believe the lie offered to her by Satan, the lie that she could become as God.

Is it not true that people today still look at Hitler and Germany's action in shock and surprise not understanding, not believe that such horrible events could be possible? There are still quite a number of people who deny the holocaust even happened claiming "it's impossible."

There are lots of crimes I see reported where I find myself shaking my head and wondering how any human being could do such a thing to another human being.

Hitler's crime involved a huge number of people, but when I see elderly folks brutally assaulted in their own homes I am no less stunned that someone is capable of doing such a thing.

Exactly? "I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God”
God is the first and the last. God is the alpha and the omega. How does that not mean that God is not everything?

If I might use a simplistic analogy here. I keep a fish tank, which has fish in it. To the fish I might as well be God. I keep their water clean, I keep it warm, I feed them, and so on. In other words they are 100% dependent on me for everything they need. If I bred fish I would be their keeper from the moment they first lived to the moment they died. But I am not a fish, and the fish are not me.


Let me ask you something. Read these words, the words of Jesus (the emphasis is mine):

Mat 25:31-46 NKJV "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. (32) All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. (33) And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. (34) Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: (35) for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; (36) I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.' (37) "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? (38) When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? (39) Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' (40) And the King will answer and say to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.' (41) "Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: (42) for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; (43) I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.' (44) "Then they also will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?' (45) Then He will answer them, saying, 'Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' (46) And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Did Jesus lie? You can't say there is no eternal punishment without saying Jesus lied.

[Possibly]

I think I saw a movie that dramatized the author's life and how he came up with the book. If I remember, the author injured his neck, lost his job, lived on the streets, became a DJ, bought a little house, lost his job, then was convinced that 'god' spoke to him.

The book's overall premise is that all "god" desires is for man to be "happy". It's premise is moral relativism, which is ultimately self-contradicting, and fails.

Can you explain further? I do not understand what the self-contradiction you're referring to is.