I have found the word of God!

[Desperaux]

I don't believe in the devil, as I find the idea and explanation of the devil contradicting and a method to inspire fear in us.

Of course it is contradicting! Satan contradicts every word of truth and every good thing that God has given us, especially Jesus Christ. He robs the truth from those who do not grasp tightly to it.

[dljc]

Let me ask you a few questions based on your answers.

1a.God created the universe from God. 1b. We are all one.

1a. John 1:1-3 "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." God spoke everything into existence.

1b.Are we one with a rock or a blade of grass?

2.The universe was created so that we may experience God for before, God was all so God knew God but God could not experience God. For to experience something you must experience its opposite. Only through it's relative can one experience something.

With this logic, you are basically saying I have to experience physical death before I can experience life. So how can I bring myself back to life after experiencing death?

3. God is perfect and thus loves us without condition or judgments for a perfect being needs nothing from anyone else.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

If there is no judgment why is there a gift being offered?

4. Life is not a struggle, or a discovery, life is our creation. Life exist for us to experience what ever we desire. What or soul truly desires is to remember What and Who it truly is, God.

Did you create yourself? For our life to be our creation we would have to be able to create ourselves without any help from our parents. You have parents don't you?

5. We are all heading towards God. It's a one way bus. You merely decide the speed at which you get there.

You are right here.

Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

How do you think you'll fare? Are you your own savior or do you think you need one?

[alice]

I don't believe in the devil, as I find the idea and explanation of the devil contradicting and a method to inspire fear in us.

I used to not believe in the devil.

I was told the same thing...the devil only exists if you BELIEVE he exists... to believe in the devil gives him power...

The devil uses that to get to people.

Last night I had a very in depth conversation with someone. Someone who I have had plenty of in depth conversations with before. Someone who I have conversed with about how wonderful God is. And how we are all God and should accept everyone and everything. Someone who will swear to your face God is real. So last night I felt compelled to read the Bible. And suddenly that someone became uncomfortable. And this someone told me it felt like I was coming down on them. And when I questioned why, the eyes of that someone rolled back in their head. And they asked if we could just not talk about it. And I don't mean they just rolled their eyes. I mean they looked as if they were in agony.

The devil is 100% real.

Can you explain how the idea and explanation of the devil is contradicting? The word of God tells us the devil is real. Yet I am posting in a thread you created that is titled, "I have found the word of God!" Do you mean that you believe this new book is sent by God because the Bible was just a contradiction? Otherwise I am unclear as to how you are coming to that conclusion.

[Possibly]

God is Just also. A just God isn't going to allow someone who commits a sin to enter His presence. He doesn't wink at those who commit murders, nor those who commit seeming little sins like speeding on the highway.

He created every single human being, but he doesn't have a love relationship with anyone but His own--namely those who are called by His name--those who accept and love Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord. They are His family.

Those outside His family are just that--on the outside and His justice will keep them there. What kind of a judge allows a lawbreaker to go free? A bad one. God isn't that! Count on it. Those who really love God, fear Him also. If there is no fear, there can be no love for Him. The wicked do not fear God.

Ecclesiastes 8:12-13
But even though a person sins a hundred times and still lives a long time, I know that those who fear God will be better off. The wicked will not prosper, for they do not fear God. Their days will never grow long like the evening shadows.

What you speak of is not a God of unconditional love.

As for that nature of sins and right and wrong I have responded to these points early in the thread if you back track a bit.

[Possibly]

Of course it is contradicting! Satan contradicts every word of truth and every good thing that God has given us, especially Jesus Christ. He robs the truth from those who do not grasp tightly to it.

So that would imply that either God is not perfect or that God created an imperfect system.

[Possibly]

I used to not believe in the devil.

I was told the same thing...the devil only exists if you BELIEVE he exists... to believe in the devil gives him power...

The devil uses that to get to people.

Last night I had a very in depth conversation with someone. Someone who I have had plenty of in depth conversations with before. Someone who I have conversed with about how wonderful God is. And how we are all God and should accept everyone and everything. Someone who will swear to your face God is real. So last night I felt compelled to read the Bible. And suddenly that someone became uncomfortable. And this someone told me it felt like I was coming down on them. And when I questioned why, the eyes of that someone rolled back in their head. And they asked if we could just not talk about it. And I don't mean they just rolled their eyes. I mean they looked as if they were in agony.

The devil is 100% real.

Can you explain how the idea and explanation of the devil is contradicting? The word of God tells us the devil is real. Yet I am posting in a thread you created that is titled, "I have found the word of God!" Do you mean that you believe this new book is sent by God because the Bible was just a contradiction? Otherwise I am unclear as to how you are coming to that conclusion.

An interesting experience you speak of. But it does not speak one way or the other.

In the post I responded just above this one why the devil is a contradiction.

And yes I do believe that this book is the Truth about the nature of God. But all books are the word of God as all things are God.

I do not believe it was sent by God, someone merely asked, and then listened to the response.

[Desperaux]

What you speak of is not a God of unconditional love.

He imposes conditions on us. He loves all, but he really loves His own! Just like the favourite father in the neighbourhood--he loves everybody's kids, but He REALLY favours his own brood!

I am so blessed that he is MY dad!

As for that nature of sins and right and wrong I have responded to these points early in the thread if you back track a bit.

Oh well, never saw anything much.

[dljc]

So that would imply that either God is not perfect or that God created an imperfect system.

Where do you get the idea God created a perfect system to begin with? If we were created perfect from the beginning then we would be Holy Holy Holy as He is. And I can assure you I'm no where near holy or perfect are you?

Isaiah 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

[Desperaux]

So that would imply that either God is not perfect or that God created an imperfect system.

He is perfect and He created a perfect system. Satan is a creature who also has free will.

God wants us to choose Him over everything that sets itself up against Him, and all of that contradiction originated in Satan.

[Possibly]

Let me ask you a few questions based on your answers.

1a. John 1:1-3 "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." God spoke everything into existence.

I think this is a very ancient scientific truth that we have forgotten. The power of words. All matter, all energy are vibrations. And what is spoken word? Sound. Sound is a perfect example of vibrations. Thus it is fitting that God created the universe through vibrations which is the true physical nature of all things.

As for the spiritual implications it does say that the Word was God. So you could imply that God created the universe from God.

1b.Are we one with a rock or a blade of grass?

Yes

With this logic, you are basically saying I have to experience physical death before I can experience life. So how can I bring myself back to life after experiencing death?

Interesting question!
Death is not the opposite of life. Death is a process. So I guess it would be better to say, dying is not the opposite of life, it would be the opposite of birth. At least in a physical sense. The opposite of life would be what existed before God created the physical universe. The total oneness of all.
As too how can you bring yourself back? Well ask Jesus
But that is only to the same body, the book and myself believes in reincarnation.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

If there is no judgment why is there a gift being offered?

I don't see what gifts and judgment have to do with each other. People only receive gifts if they are judged to be good? How does respond to my statement about unconditional love.

Did you create yourself? For our life to be our creation we would have to be able to create ourselves without any help from our parents. You have parents don't you?

Yes I have parents. But we are all the same thing. We are all God in different forms. So yes I did create myself.

You are right here.

Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

How do you think you'll fare? Are you your own savior or do you think you need one?

A very interesting quote. So in Romans God says everyone serves me and knows me. Which seems to support the beliefs I have stated above.

Then Philippians says you "should" bow to Jesus. Why the sudden distinction?

I don't believe in the idea of a savior. As to be saved implies that you need saving. But if your soul is creating your life in accordance to what it wants and this realm is perfect as God created a perfect system, then any notion of being saved would be an illusion. As I said before, the bus is one way.

I do believe Jesus existed. I do believe in the miracles that he performed. But I believed that he preached the truth about reality lies in unconditional love of yourself, and God.

[alice]

An interesting experience you speak of. But it does not speak one way or the other.

You finding it interesting is good enough for me.

In the post I responded just above this one why the devil is a contradiction.

Still unclear. You're saying the devil doesn't exist because God is perfect and has created a perfect system, therefore it is impossible for there to be such thing as a devil?

And yes I do believe that this book is the Truth about the nature of God. But all books are the word of God as all things are God.

That seems to me to be a contradiction. All books are not speaking of the same thing. Books are sending out all sorts of different messages, many of which conflict with one another.

I do not believe it was sent by God, someone merely asked, and then listened to the response.

Accoring to your philosophy, that someone who merely asked is God. Why would God ask himself a question in order to listen to the response?

[vja4Him]

... I, also, urge you to toss the book ad to read the Bible. No, I have no need of such a book when I hold the truth in my hand, the Bible.

Amen brother ... !!! The Word of God is a treasure.

Psalm 119:11

Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

[Possibly]

He imposes conditions on us. He loves all, but he really loves His own! Just like the favourite father in the neighbourhood--he loves everybody's kids, but He REALLY favours his own brood!

I am so blessed that he is MY dad!

That is not unconditional love. That is conditional love.

Dictionary.com says, affection with no limits or conditions; complete love.
To say someone loves something or someone more or less is conditional love.

Perhaps it would be better to stay that God loves ALL things unconditionally. Though that seems kind of repetitive.

Oh well, never saw anything much.

You've read through the entire thread and missed it?

[vja4Him]

Blatent heresy and blasphemy .... !!!!

Here are a few excerpts: (Walsch said God talked to him, over his shoulder.)

Walsch says the voice told him that God is everything and everything is God. Therefore, we humans are “God.” Everyone around you is simply “you” in a different form, and we are all “God.”

Here, Walsch is repeating one of Satan’s original lies, “You will be as God” (Genesis 3:5).

Walsch also claims that all life is eternal. Death is “the great illusion.” There is no judgment, no punishment, and no hell, for there is no reason for any of that—there is no sin. After death, a person goes to a different level of existence in order to “continue the evolution of the human soul.”

This teaching is in direct conflict with Hebrews 9:27 and many other passages of scripture that teach the reality of judgment after death.

Walsch’s defense of Hitler’s actions are in line with his teaching of relativism: Hitler might be called “evil,” but only “within the context of our human experience.” And Hitler was commissioned by God “to show humanity to itself for the purpose of lifting humanity above what it had become and what it had sunk to” (Larry King interview).

Therefore, to Walsch, Hitler was just another thread of material that's called humanity, and was necessary to help us move forward.

According to him, there is no right way to live or one way to come to God. There are many ways, and all of them are equally valid. All the gods of various religions are really the same “God.”

The One True God disagrees with Walsch: “ Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: ‘ I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God” (Isaiah 44:6).

This is all horrible teaching!

[Possibly]

Where do you get the idea God created a perfect system to begin with? If we were created perfect from the beginning then we would be Holy Holy Holy as He is. And I can assure you I'm no where near holy or perfect are you?

Isaiah 6:3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, Holy, Holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

God is a perfect being. Why would a perfect being create an imperfect system?

And if the point of life is simply to experience and to act in free will then according to that model you would be perfect.

As for your quote it says the whole earth is full of his glory. God glory is perfection. So the whole earth is full of God's perfection.