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    Re: Am I being Paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by RevLogos View Post
    Well as the old saying goes, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

    Interesting to look at the list of 10 items in the OP from the perspective that it was written almost 2 years ago.

    Not that much has changed. Couple I disagree with anyway, but the only one that I see as having changed much is #1. The world seems even less unified than before. The US is sharply divided politically, it has alienated many allies and seems to pander to some enemies, and the EU appears on the brink of collapse. Otherwise the world is in pretty much the same mess it was 2 years ago.
    I found no. 6 particularly interesting. There has been increased support in creating a Western friendly capitalistic democratic Middle East, not decreased support, in the years since that opening post. Look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, the west has basically completely penetrated the regionand put fear in the hearts of the other countries of the Middle East. Will Syria and Iran also fall, creating a western friendly Middle Eastern region that resembles the Macedonian empire of Alexander in its geographical borders?

    Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard

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    Re: Am I being Paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaniElHaAvHaKodesh View Post

    4)Britain owned by vatican
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    As a Brit, thank you for giving me the best laugh in years. Tell me what evidence have you for this? Sorry, but this is simply American arrogance. Now if you had said the Arabs it certainly is moving that way. But it has a long way to go. As for the Vatican, their only influence on Britain is through Roman Catholics. and many of them would resent Vatican interference.

    So sorry, if this is an example of your 'facts' you are totally deluded.

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    Re: Am I being Paranoid?

    Quote Originally Posted by ph33r View Post
    A lot of things have been on my mind lately and the circumstances are beginning to become to obvious to ignore (even for me and I am very skeptical).
    But I think not sceptical enough.?
    1) The other countries of the world, and even the US are unifying into regional unified governments.
    Well there is a move towards unification in some parts. But there is a lot of opposition to it. And the Euro-zone is in dire straits and may break up. In Britain there is a large majority opinion AGAINST the encroachments of the European union. The same is probably true of other attempts at 'unification'.


    2) The state of the churches and their belief in the actual trueness of God's word is deteriorating especially among the larger denominations, even evangical churches.
    So the state of America is to be the arbiter of the global situation? This happened in the uk a long time ago.
    But in many parts of the world, including Muslim Indonesia, the Gospel is advancing rapidly, and belief in the word of God grows ever stronger. Just to remind you in a friendly way, neither America nor Britain are focuses of the Bible, or of prophecy. :-)
    [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] 3) Natural disasters are increasing in frequency and in severity across the globe.
    This is simply untrue. They are just brought home more through the media. The 1st century AD was a century of disasters, and 'the Dark Ages' were probably the result of natural catastophes. Climate change may produce catastrophes in places where there were none, but other people will benefiit from climate change.
    4) The dollar which has up to recently been the standard of the global economy is on the verge of collapse and the formation of regional governments is leaning towards the establishment of a single currency.
    I suspect that the dollar is not on the verge of collapse. Going through difficult times, yes, but so are all currencies. Live now, pay later has reached the paying point. But in 5 years time all will be back to normal. What of course will change the picture is the Chinese, and possibly the Indian, currencies. But that is tough on the dollar, not necessarily on the world. Economies will adapt.

    With regard to single currencies the European experiment is on the point of failure with more and more couintries having to be bailed out (Greece, Ireland, Portugal), and Spain a larger threat for the future. Britain continues to thank God that it did not join the Euro zone.

    5) The Islamic religion is coming to the point where it will exceed Christianity as the main religion of the world.
    And this based on Muslim propaganda. Like Catholicism no one ever ceases to be a Muslim in their eyes, so they have to grow. There can never be a decline. It is against their theology. The millions turning to Christ in Indonesia are still seen and recorded as Muslims. Once a Muslim always a Muslim. So I would not take too much notice of the figures if I were you. They mainly advance thorough multiple births.

    6) Countries in the Middle east now are capable of eliminating Israel and the 1 country that would support Israel is deteriorating economically, is militarily preoccupied, and it's leaders are largely reducing support to Israel.
    Well,of course, this depends on whether you see modern Israel as referred to in the Bible. In my view the fate of modern, pagan, materialistic Israel is an irrelevance theologically. The true Israel which will fulfil Old Testament prophecies is the remnant who responded to and believed in the Messiah (Acts 1-12), as expanded by the reception of gentile proselytes (us) into Israel. I am a true Israelite because I am a true Christian, a Messiah believer (Romans 11.16-24; galatians 3.29; 6.16; Ephesians 2.11-22; 1 Peter 2.9; James 1.1). IN GOD'S EYES THERE IS NO OTHER ISRAEL..


    7). The one country (USA) that is one of the last bastions of non-government based control is gradually giving over power of all civil liberties to the government.
    I'm glad you said 'one of'. But many new democracies are growing up. It is a brave man who is dogmatic on how they will turn out. Although I must admit I am not sure what 'non-government based control' is. Do your states not have 'governments' (lets not argue over a word)? You have governors.

    8) With the invention of the internet, the word of God can now be spread throughout the world reaching all people.
    Well, yes to some extent. But i have yet to hear of a computer in every school and home. Especially in Africa. And many people who use the internet totally ignore what they see as religious propaganda. There is a difference between 'hearing' and 'having the opportunity to hear'. It can be spread, but is it?


    9) Israel is now a nation and has identified areas and prepared to rebuild the temple.
    Well they certainly won't be building it on the Temple mount in the near future, not unless they want to be wiped out. Remember this is not believing Israel. It is multi-cultural, multi-faith, materialistic, widely atheistic Israel. There is absolutely no reason why God should step in and support them.
    10) There is a growing case of anti-Semitism in World Wide.
    I think we must distinguish anti-semitism from anti-Israel, Israel does not go out of its way to be popluar, and it is possible to be anti-Israel without being anti semitist. Britain is less anti-seminist than it has ever been. I have every sympathy with Israel's dilemma. I am not anti-Israel. But I am not convinced that they go the right way about things. I am also well aware that the so-called 'Palestinian nation' is an invention of 1967. But nevertheless people's rights do have to be considered.

    I know some people look at the Roman government as a fulfillment of revelations but it simply falls short. The Roman government wasn't
    1) World wide
    Paul saw it as worldwide (Romans 1.8) and so did Luke (Acts 2.5).

    2) Technologically capable of meeting the requirements of revelations.
    Well thats a matter of interpretation. I doubt if John saw it that way.

    3) Lack of natural disasters.
    That is a joke. The 1st century was a century of natural disasters. read Tacitus.

    4) Lack of unified force from the east.
    There was plenty of unified force from the East, even if it did not fit into your criteria.

    5) Lack of centralized independent Israel
    But there was a centralised, independent Israel, it was called 'the congregation of the Messiah'.
    Modern self-named Israel is materialistic and largely atheistic. It is hardly the believing Israel of prophecy.

    6) Lack of worldwide knowledge of Christ.


    But Paul (specifically in Romans 1.8) and Luke both saw the Gospel as having gone out into the whole world.
    These are all my opinions but it seems like we are closer to end-times than ever before (and yes I know each day is one day closer to end-times and yes I know no one knows the days but we do know the signs).
    Well i can sympathise with your overall viewpoint, but it is highly coloured by American prophetic ideas which often bear no resemblance to the real world.
    :-)

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