Animal Sacrifices

[GreekAsianPanda]

I was wondering if it says anywhere in the OT that animal sacrifices didn't literally take away sin. Thanks.

[JohnDB]

Each sin offering was that...an offering.

It goes back to the Blood Path that God walked down.

Remember the Animals that Abraham sacrificed and split in half...then the smoking firepot appeared between the halves of the animals?

That was a form of a covenant...a blood oath that the person walking down the center would make essentially saying that the same thing could be done to them as these animals if they broke this covenant.

The blood sacrifice of these animals for sin offerings was supposed to be a reminder to God not to forget his covenant with Abraham and themselves by extention of the fact that they were his descendants because of the sin that they committed. It never was similar to indulgences in that fashion. The sin was forgiven not because of the sacrifice at all...(which was a way to say that you were indeed sorry for your sins)

The only animal that had sins placed upon it was the scape Goat. And it was never killed...it was just sent out of the city. (on atonement day)

[blessedmommyuv3]

Isaiah 1:
11 "The multitude of your sacrifices—
what are they to me?" says the LORD.
"I have more than enough of burnt offerings,
of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure
in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.
12 When you come to appear before me,
who has asked this of you,
this trampling of my courts?
13 Stop bringing meaningless offerings!
Your incense is detestable to me.
New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations—
I cannot bear your evil assemblies.
14 Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts
my soul hates.
They have become a burden to me;
I am weary of bearing them.
15 When you spread out your hands in prayer,
I will hide my eyes from you;
even if you offer many prayers,
I will not listen.
Your hands are full of blood;
16 wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds
out of my sight!
Stop doing wrong,
17 learn to do right!
Seek justice,
encourage the oppressed.
Defend the cause of the fatherless,
plead the case of the widow.


Psalm 40:
6 Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but my ears you have pierced;
burnt offerings and sin offerings
you did not require.
7 Then I said, "Here I am, I have come—
it is written about me in the scroll.
8 I desire to do your will, O my God;
your law is within my heart."

I think that it is worth noting that in both of these scriptures it is not the blood sacrifice of animals God wants, it is for people to stop doing wrong, and do His will. (Repent and submit)


In Christ,
Jen

[David Taylor]

I was wondering if it says anywhere in the OT that animal sacrifices didn't literally take away sin. Thanks.

Sure.

But before we move to the OT, let's list the specific NT passage that states it specifically, verbatim.

Hebrews 10:4 "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever"

So according to the NT Hebrew writer, only Jesus' one-time sacrifice and offering of His own body, can take away sins.

All of the prior animal sacrifice and offerings were done as pre-types pointing forward to Christ, but not effective themselves by their own merit. Only His sacrifice and offering is acceptible to take away sin.

Now some O.T. scriptures that confirm the N.T.

Isaiah 1:11-20 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord, I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of the he goats. Who hath required this at your hand? Bring no more vain oblations: is an abomination unto me. It is iniquity. Your appointed feasts my soul hateth."

Jeremiah 7:21-24 "Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices and eat flesh. For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: But this thing commanded I them saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward."

Hosea 6:6 "For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God, more than burnt offerings. "

Psalms 40:6 "Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire. mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required."

Amos 5:25 "Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts. "

I Samuel 15:22 "But Samuel replied: "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD ? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams."

Proverbs 21:3 "To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice."





Zephaniah tells us about a sacrifice the Lord has prepared, and bidden his guests unto....(Jesus, not goats and bulls)

Zephaniah 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.

[Hawk]

Sure.

But before we move to the OT, let's list the specific NT passage that states it specifically, verbatim.

Hebrews 10:4 "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever"

So according to the NT Hebrew writer, only Jesus' one-time sacrifice and offering of His own body, can take away sins.

All of the prior animal sacrifice and offerings were done as pre-types pointing forward to Christ, but not effective themselves by their own merit. Only His sacrifice and offering is acceptible to take away sin.

Now some O.T. scriptures that confirm the N.T.

Isaiah 1:11-20 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord, I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of the he goats. Who hath required this at your hand? Bring no more vain oblations: is an abomination unto me. It is iniquity. Your appointed feasts my soul hateth."

Jeremiah 7:21-24 "Thus saith the Lord of Hosts, the God of Israel; Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices and eat flesh. For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: But this thing commanded I them saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward."

Hosea 6:6 "For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God, more than burnt offerings. "

Psalms 40:6 "Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire. mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required."

Amos 5:25 "Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts. "

I Samuel 15:22 "But Samuel replied: "Does the LORD delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the LORD ? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams."

Proverbs 21:3 "To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice."





Zephaniah tells us about a sacrifice the Lord has prepared, and bidden his guests unto....(Jesus, not goats and bulls)

Zephaniah 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.

Well said, DT!

Hawk

[gringo300]

By the way, does anyone on here know why most sects of Judaism aren't currently practicing animal sacrifice?

It's not because Christ has come.

That may be the reason for MESSIANIC Judaism...

[blessedmommyuv3]

By the way, does anyone on here know why most sects of Judaism aren't currently practicing animal sacrifice?

It's not because Christ has come.

That may be the reason for MESSIANIC Judaism...

I'm certain that Fenris could answer that question if you want to pose it in Contro.

In Christ,
Jen

[JohnDB]

By the way, does anyone on here know why most sects of Judaism aren't currently practicing animal sacrifice?

It's not because Christ has come.

That may be the reason for MESSIANIC Judaism...

It is because they have no Temple in which to offer them at. Which is the one place that they were supposed to do that sort of thing.

But

If you ever do go to Israel you will see a few sacrifices/burnt offerings being performed...they haven't truly stopped.

[The Mighty Sword]

If animals were sacrificed does that make them martyrs?

[gringo300]

It is because they have no Temple in which to offer them at. Which is the one place that they were supposed to do that sort of thing.

But

If you ever do go to Israel you will see a few sacrifices/burnt offerings being performed...they haven't truly stopped.

Reportedly, Samaritans still perform sacrifices on Passover.

[JohnDB]

If animals were scarificed does that make them martyrs?

NO...but it certainly is an abuse reportable to PETA...(People Eating Tasty Animals)

I love roast lamb and burning it seems like such a waste.