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    Arrow Number of the beast 666 and 616

    The Bible states that the number is the number of man before it says any thing else about the number what do you think it means.

    My thoughts are:

    Since man was created on the 6th day of the week could it mean a series of fridays and the other one with one in the middle being the day of the new creation of man in christ indicating friday and sunday there by we get fri.fri fri 666 and fri.sun.fri. 616. This indicationg the beast and the prostitute that rides the scarlet beast in revelations. Does it also indicate the false sabbath of the muslims and christians understood by the Jewish man who wrote these numbers in revelations.

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    First, the numbers are to be read as "six-hundred sixty-six" and "six-hundred sixteen", respectively, not "six six six" or "six one six". The meaning is very different between the two.

    Second, John tells us that "the number" is "the number of the beast's name". A sequence of three Fridays or Friday-Sunday-Friday is not a name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markedward View Post
    First, the numbers are to be read as "six-hundred sixty-six" and "six-hundred sixteen", respectively, not "six six six" or "six one six". The meaning is very different between the two.

    Second, John tells us that "the number" is "the number of the beast's name". A sequence of three Fridays or Friday-Sunday-Friday is not a name.
    how do you get to this understanding many languages express the numbers differently many will say 666 as six hundered and 6o and six or 616 as six hundred and 10 and six to reply in the above manner is to refuse to put thought into our reply and go with outdated teaching. you want the number in a name how about this

    the 50 states of the united states of america rulled by 1600 pennsylvania ave washington dc

    dc = 600
    The original white house address was 16 and the 50 states

    616 + 50 = 666

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonian View Post
    how do you get to this understanding many languages express the numbers differently many will say 666 as six hundered and 6o and six or 616 as six hundred and 10 and six to reply in the above manner is to refuse to put thought into our reply and go with outdated teaching. you want the number in a name how about this

    the 50 states of the united states of america rulled by 1600 pennsylvania ave washington dc

    dc = 600
    The original white house address was 16 and the 50 states

    616 + 50 = 666
    Six hundred threescore and six
    600 60 6= 666

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckrl View Post
    Six hundred threescore and six
    600 60 6= 666

    once again that is only because of linguistic difference it is still 666 and 616

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonian View Post
    once again that is only because of linguistic difference it is still 666 and 616
    The number "six-hundred-and-sixty-six" is expressed the same in any language. No matter what language you want to pick, "six-hundred-and-sixty-six" is a very different thing from "three sixes written in sequence".

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonian View Post
    how do you get to this understanding many languages express the numbers differently many will say 666 as six hundered and 6o and six or 616 as six hundred and 10 and six
    Regardless of how they are worded in their respective languages, they are still saying that it is a number that has six ones, six tens, and six hundreds... i.e. 666. "Six six six" is not how any of them presented it.

    And, regardless of how "many languages express the numbers differently", the Greek, which is the language the Revelation was first written in, specifically identifies the number as the whole number 666, not a sequence of three 6's.

    to reply in the above manner is to refuse to put thought into our reply and go with outdated teaching.
    I don't appreciate you telling me that I'm being "thoughtless" and "outdated". You imply that I put no effort into my post... do you even know me to make such a claim?

    you want the number in a name how about this

    the 50 states of the united states of america rulled by 1600 pennsylvania ave washington dc

    dc = 600
    The original white house address was 16 and the 50 states

    616 + 50 = 666
    First, how does "DC" equate to 600?

    Second, John says that the number is the number of a name of a man, singular... not the number of the name of a city added to the number of states of a nation added to the original address of a political leader's home. None of the three items you used were the name of a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonian View Post
    how do you get to this understanding many languages express the numbers differently many will say 666 as six hundered and 6o and six or 616 as six hundred and 10 and six to reply in the above manner is to refuse to put thought into our reply and go with outdated teaching. you want the number in a name how about this

    the 50 states of the united states of america rulled by 1600 pennsylvania ave washington dc

    dc = 600
    The original white house address was 16 and the 50 states

    616 + 50 = 666
    Now that's totally original. I'll give you that.

    Maybe it's the telephone exchange for that dude in North Korea.

    all the best...

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    Consider what happened in Daniel 5. A wicked foreign king bothered God's holy vessels. Then what? God put him on the balances to find out his sin number.

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    When something was to be numbered in the OT - how was the number arrived?
    things were weighed

    God weighs kings

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    Look for the very large man

    Quote Originally Posted by vinsight4u8 View Post
    When something was to be numbered in the OT - how was the number arrived?
    things were weighed

    God weighs kings
    So the beast is going to weigh six-hundred-sixty-six pounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by undercover View Post
    So the beast is going to weigh six-hundred-sixty-six pounds?

    God weighs kings for their sin price. Belshazzar was put on the scales to be weighed for his sin with God's holy vessels. Belshazzar would have had a number attached to him - as to his sin price - if Solomon had weighed the holy vessels.

    but Belshazzar was found wanting
    as in - some bit of information that was critical was lacking

    Solomon left the vessels unweighed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markedward View Post
    And, regardless of how "many languages express the numbers differently", the Greek, which is the language the Revelation was first written in, specifically identifies the number as the whole number 666, not a sequence of three 6's.
    You are absolutely right. The Greek says "six hundred and sixty-six" (ἑξακόσιοι ἑξήκοντα ἕξ). So much for silly Hollywood movies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by markedward View Post
    Regardless of how they are worded in their respective languages, they are still saying that it is a number that has six ones, six tens, and six hundreds... i.e. 666. "Six six six" is not how any of them presented it.

    And, regardless of how "many languages express the numbers differently", the Greek, which is the language the Revelation was first written in, specifically identifies the number as the whole number 666, not a sequence of three 6's.

    I don't appreciate you telling me that I'm being "thoughtless" and "outdated". You imply that I put no effort into my post... do you even know me to make such a claim?

    First, how does "DC" equate to 600?

    Second, John says that the number is the number of a name of a man, singular... not the number of the name of a city added to the number of states of a nation added to the original address of a political leader's home. None of the three items you used were the name of a man.
    first of all please allow me to appologise for offending you that was not my intention although my answer was a bit abrupt and the air it was written was from out of personal problems at home.
    now to my understanding of the greek text it says nothing about the number being the numbe of a man but the number of man. and 666 no matter how you write it is always gonna be a sequence whether it be written out or by the number it stil is 6 6 6 we must always remember how removed the orriginal text is from the exsisting copies and that those who translated them into greek may have written it as they understood it so we cant rule ot the possibility of it being sequential.

    if it is sequential as in fri fri fri then the mark could be pointing to the muslim religeon whose sabath is friday. then if that is true then could it also be true that 666 is also the mark of a year, because,,,, if you add 26 ad the year our Lord was annointed in the river Jordon to 666 you do come to the year 692 the first year the DEome pf the Rock stood without construction.

    Finnally DC is 600 in roman numerals

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    please dont grade my spelling or typeing

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