That has to be the first time I've ever seen someone answer their own posts, bravo.My insistence here is that the Catholic mass is basically an esoteric and (unneccessarily) eccentric version of celebrating communion and the celebration of the death and atonement of Christ. That is what Leo said. If "mass" is a "sacrament", then so is "communion". The only question to be answered is whether the act of mass or the act of communion has salvific value, or whether the faith in mass or the faith in communion has salvific value. Leo and I both say the latter, whereas you seem more caught up in the actions of mass.
The point which you managed so marvellously to miss is that these saints are very much alive. They are not divine and we are not talking about mediation. Your objection to Leo was an objection to his simple comment that the saints are alive. You're having your argument about mediation with yourself, because neither of us brought it up.
Do you understand the difference between a valuable teaching and Holy Spirit-inspired canon? And even if you don't, Leo's point was simply that the Catholic church (inspired by the Holy Spirit) compiled the canonical Bible.
I have no patience with semantic tomfoolery. "Esteemed" means "respected". "Hail" is a salutation of respect and acclamation. If nothing else, we can leave this point with the admission that Mary was highly favoured and blessed among women. If you have a problem with that, you can take it up with Jesus.
Our disagreement, then, is down to the fact that you have not distinguished wrong doctrine from heresy.