A tithing question.

[KATMAN]

We know that tithing is a part of the Christian faith. The question is how important is it to put a tithe in a envolope and sign your name to it? I know there are several churches that say members must tithe at least 3% to remain members of the church.My dad refuses to sign a paper but still tithes to his church.He says that should remain between the individual and God.Many people have been hurt by pastors or deacon calling out certain people who don't tithe.It doesn't happen in my church,but I have heard some that have done it.Does it matter wether or not you sign a envolope for tithing?

[Firefighter]

Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.


See a pattern here??? I agree with your dad.

Not all of us agree that tithing is part of the Christian faith.

[KATMAN]

Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.


See a pattern here??? I agree with your dad.

Not all of us agree that tithing is part of the Christian faith.

I heard a lot of preachers that do sermons on Malichi 3.In several denomations. People also different ways of tithing,not neccesary money.

[Firefighter]

So...............

[amazzin]

We know that tithing is a part of the Christian faith. The question is how important is it to put a tithe in a envolope and sign your name to it? I know there are several churches that say members must tithe at least 3% to remain members of the church.My dad refuses to sign a paper but still tithes to his church.He says that should remain between the individual and God.Many people have been hurt by pastors or deacon calling out certain people who don't tithe.It doesn't happen in my church,but I have heard some that have done it.Does it matter wether or not you sign a envolope for tithing?

First of all if such a church exists whereby they are forcing you to give a minimal percentage then leave, shake the dust off your feet and don't return.

Any pastoir who acts this way is no man of God.

Lastly, tell your father to honor God as is spoken in God's word. Whether that be with an envelope or not. It just doesn't matter

But again, you attend a church that is so controlling then you need to consider leaving.

[amazzin]

I heard a lot of preachers that do sermons on Malichi 3.In several denomations. People also different ways of tithing,not neccesary money.

I preach from Malachi all the time,...so what? Is it not part of the Bible and the infallable Word of God?

[KATMAN]

I preach from Malachi all the time,...so what? Is it not part of the Bible and the infallable Word of God?

That's my point when it comes to tithing.Is it not our duty to God and our church?

[Desperaux]

That's my point when it comes to tithing.Is it not our duty to God and our church?

My own father tithed but never signed an envelope as it was what he gave to God and didn't think it was for him to have it recorded anywhere but in heaven.

It doesn't matter if you have it recorded for income tax purposes, church records, or not. There is no wrong or right. That is between you and the Lord.

[KATMAN]

My own father tithed but never signed an envelope as it was what he gave to God and didn't think it was for him to have it recorded anywhere but in heaven.

It doesn't matter if you have it recorded for income tax purposes, church records, or not. There is no wrong or right. That is between you and the Lord.

That's what I believe. A pastor I know tried to tell the specific reason for that,but to me it still wasn't explained.There are several things I don't get.Why would it matter for church records wether one signs a tithe envolope or not? In our church,the tithes are counted by envolopes and checks and offerings are by cash.Somethings just make me dumbfounded.

[KingFisher]

That's my point when it comes to tithing.Is it not our duty to God and our church?

Question #1
What kind of tithe was given to God?

Question #2
Was the tithe given to God ever from earned income?

Question #3
Where is it stated that it is a duty to tithe to the church?

Question #4
Are there any scriptural tithes that resemble the the duty your asking
about?

Thanks,
KingFisher

[Desperaux]

That's what I believe. A pastor I know tried to tell the specific reason for that,but to me it still wasn't explained.There are several things I don't get.Why would it matter for church records wether one signs a tithe envolope or not? In our church,the tithes are counted by envolopes and checks and offerings are by cash.Somethings just make me dumbfounded.

Yes, some church leadership are in overdrive when it comes to record-keeping. As long as the income is recorded, and the people who desire receipts are given them, it doesn't matter whether one's tithe is personally recorded.

Sounds to me as if that church is more than a little overbearing or legalistic. Calling out members for not tithing is placing bondage on them. It is one thing to encourage it, but a wise pastor knows it is a spiritually discerned matter between God and His own.

[Moxie]

Here in the US there are certain tax laws churches have to follow, which includes how they tract tithing. We changed our system to make it easier to track people's tithes and offerings (we are given a contribution sheet for the IRS at the end of the year). However, if you don't want anything tracked you simply don't follow the system put forth. Our church also has only a select few that count the offering and they are held to very strict confidentiality guidelines. Our pastors and leadership team never have access to what people give.

[Gulah Papyrus]

How many times is the word 'tithe' used in the New Testament?

'Tithing' and 'giving' are not the same thing. A Tithe is an Old Testament, and OLD COVENANT tax issued by God and was used to support His theocracy.

Giving is something that should be done anonymously if possible, and never without cheer...and never in response to a demand. If the church requires a percentage in order to retain membership, that is not giving, that is a tax, or a fee, or dues, and is not biblical.

[Dravenhawk]

Personally I use the 10% mark as a bench mark to give at. It is not something I hold fast and true to, sometimes I dont got it to give I am sure God understands. I put it in the envelope and place it face down in the plate. I use the tithe envelope purely for tax deduction tracking.

Dravenhawk

[IsItLove?]

That's my point when it comes to tithing.Is it not our duty to God and our church?

No.


2Co 9:7
Each one of you should give just as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, because God loves a cheerful giver.


Those who teach the tithe, are placing men under compulsion and are robbing God of true worshipers