Is there anyone else here who is NOT on facebook?

***Studyin'2Show*** · Jan 1st 2010, 02:11 PM

If your child has you as a friend (on FB) you will see EVERYTHING they post. Btw, you can delete a post. Many people don't know that. Just curiously, do you all think that everyone on the internet can see your FB page? WRONG! Only celebs and stupid people make their pages public!

Access to anyone's page is restricted only to those they ALLOW access. I have 2 kids on FB, the 3rd isn't old enough. I see EXACTLY what they post. My oldest is 20. How many mom's know what their 20 yr olds are doing most of the time?

Now, if your kid is on FB and you DON'T have a FB account, THEN I would be concerned. As with anything else (even a message board) online a responsible parent has to stay on their toes. I'd actually be more concerned with my teen son on this very message board than on FB. There are LOTS of things on this board I wouldn't want him to have access to. In his FB group of friends are a bunch of his friends from school, church, optimist football, and his family. Period! On here anyone with access to the internet could setup an account and eventually message him. Nope! That ain't happening! Right now his email account comes into MY Outlook. That's right and that's how it will stay for at least another year or so. On FB only a few people can message him and that's much more safe than him having an account on here.

Btw, how many of you know that someone with a fair amount of computer savvy could trace any one of us down based on our posts here? Yep! Not too difficultly either. 'Nuff said.

***moonglow*** · Jan 1st 2010, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by 14390876

Im on fb. I like it. Others have already mentioned the benefits. This board isnt that different. To each his own.

Agreed.
Actually this board is worse because after a day your posts can't be deleted or edited without asking for a mods help. On facebook you can delete your posts anytime. Much much more is said on this board then can be said on facebook in fact.

Lets see what shocking things my son says on facebook:

just got done watching UP

Day 3 of Christmas.

Day 2 of Christmas

wow..how horrible..what will I do...

The rest is the results of games he posted that can be put on his wall..or not..only if he allows it...like this:

Just took the Typing Challenge and scored 36 words per minute with 88% accuracy. What's your typing speed?

Nathan scored 2000 points, setting his week's high score! (am allowing his first name because I do post his name on this board though I usually call him Nate)

Honestly I used to be against the whole facebook thing too..alot because of the stuff I heard on the news about facebook and Myspace and all of that. But Studyin'2Show is right...no one can see anything on his wall ...he has to accept their friendship invitation. If he gets a request from someone he doesn't know he declines. Usually he will tell me he got some request to be friends from someone he doesn't know too.

I can also go get onto his account because with using firefox browsers it saved both our passwords. I did that once to help him make some setting changes he wanted.

The comment boxes on facebook only allow for short comments unlike here where we can put so much more information and I also again agree with Studyin'2Show there are topics on here I simply do not want a 14 year old to read. We have alot of threads of sexual natures and people struggling with some sexual sins he just doesn't need to know about...sometimes just reading these things can give young teenagers ideas they never had before...

And as parents we don't want them to have.

But as others have said, each to their own.

God bless

***Reynolds357*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by moonglow

Agreed.
Actually this board is worse because after a day your posts can't be deleted or edited without asking for a mods help. On facebook you can delete your posts anytime. Much much more is said on this board then can be said on facebook in fact.

Lets see what shocking things my son says on facebook:

just got done watching UP

Day 3 of Christmas.

Day 2 of Christmas

wow..how horrible..what will I do...

The rest is the results of games he posted that can be put on his wall..or not..only if he allows it...like this:

Just took the Typing Challenge and scored 36 words per minute with 88% accuracy. What's your typing speed?

Nathan scored 2000 points, setting his week's high score! (am allowing his first name because I do post his name on this board though I usually call him Nate)

Honestly I used to be against the whole facebook thing too..alot because of the stuff I heard on the news about facebook and Myspace and all of that. But Studyin'2Show is right...no one can see anything on his wall ...he has to accept their friendship invitation. If he gets a request from someone he doesn't know he declines. Usually he will tell me he got some request to be friends from someone he doesn't know too.

I can also go get onto his account because with using firefox browsers it saved both our passwords. I did that once to help him make some setting changes he wanted.

The comment boxes on facebook only allow for short comments unlike here where we can put so much more information and I also again agree with Studyin'2Show there are topics on here I simply do not want a 14 year old to read. We have alot of threads of sexual natures and people struggling with some sexual sins he just doesn't need to know about...sometimes just reading these things can give young teenagers ideas they never had before...

And as parents we don't want them to have.

But as others have said, each to their own.

God bless

My primary reason for being here is to discuss the Bible. It is not to social network. To me, that is the big difference between this board and facebook.

***Studyin'2Show*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Reynolds357

My primary reason for being here is to discuss the Bible. It is not to social network. To me, that is the big difference between this board and facebook.

Many use it to post daily scriptures even testimonies. A girl friend from high school posted that her husband had complication after a simple out patient surgery two days before Thanksgiving. He ended up in ICU and stayed there for almost a month. Friends from all over the country were praying for her husband and their family as they went through this difficult time right square in the middle of the holiday season. She kept us updated as to his progress as well as his setbacks. Both my Sunday school class and the choir have been praying for the situation as have friends and family all over the country. Her friends have been posting encouragements for her, even scriptures for her. She has been so appreciative of all the support. He got out of ICU about 10 days ago. We posted praises to God for his progress. She posted pictures of her and the kids with him in the hospital over Christmas. We were all encouraged and we posted more praises to God. He just got moved out of the hospital Wednesday to a rehab facility. Still more praises posted.

Now here's the thing. Not every one of her FB friends is a believer. But guess what? They all got to see those praises and this testimony - God is at work in the lives of His people! Praise be to God! We are social beings and Yeshua was social as well...with SINNERS!

Fellowshipping on FB is no sin whether you want to think it is or not is your business. Poking fun is fine but let's just make something clear, FB can be used for God's glory. It's up to ME to make sure my postings glorify Him....and as with anything else I do, THAT is my priority!

God Bless!
Denise

***Brother Mark*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by Reynolds357

Thats fine.
My wife is on facebook and I just hate even looking at her page.
Twitter is the one that really annoys me. I am not cenceited enough to think that people really care where I am and what I am doing. People who put their daily schedule on tweeter must really think they are much more important than I think I am.

I use twitter for work. It's quick/fast, short messages, and will text to a phone which makes it very valuable.

***moonglow*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Reynolds357

My primary reason for being here is to discuss the Bible. It is not to social network. To me, that is the big difference between this board and facebook.

I agree with Studyin'2Show again..(and believe me there is plenty we don't agree on so I have to get in all the agreeing posts I can with her..lol). But seriously she is right.

Personally Reynolds I think its said you don't want to socialize with us. Especially since the bible tells us to have fellowship with each other. It doesn't say to only be in bible study with each other..but to pray for each other..share each others concerns..etc.

Romans 15:4-6

5 May God, who gives this patience and encouragement, help you live in complete harmony with each other, as is fitting for followers of Christ Jesus. 6 Then all of you can join together with one voice, giving praise and glory to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 13:11
[ Paul’s Final Greetings ] Dear brothers and sisters, I close my letter with these last words: Be joyful. Grow to maturity. Encourage each other. Live in harmony and peace. Then the God of love and peace will be with you

1 Corinthians 9:22
When I am with those who are weak, I share their weakness, for I want to bring the weak to Christ. Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone, doing everything I can to save some

2 Corinthians 1
3 All praise to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is our merciful Father and the source of all comfort. 4 He comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others. When they are troubled, we will be able to give them the same comfort God has given us. 5 For the more we suffer for Christ, the more God will shower us with his comfort through Christ. 6 Even when we are weighed down with troubles, it is for your comfort and salvation! For when we ourselves are comforted, we will certainly comfort you. Then you can patiently endure the same things we suffer. 7 We are confident that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in the comfort God gives us.

There are many, many more. We are one Body in Christ and are to share with each other..whether in prayer request, praises, just goofing around being friends...and that can be done on facebook, on here, on youtube..anywhere.

On facebook the non-believing friends do see our God comments so are exposed to those too..which is good.

Anything on the net can be abused and used for bad or it can be used for the glory of God...its all up to the person and their intentions.

God bless

**fireflies** · Jan 2nd 2010, 07:02 PM

I have a FB account. It helps me keep in touch.

But - for those parents who think they can add their child as a friend and see everything? Nope.

There are things called Friend Groups. My Family is all one friend group - and they don't get to see anything unless I want them to... I also have groups for work buddies, old school friends, and acquaintances. Basically, if you're not in my "Inner Circle" group - you would think I never ever post. That is the only group that can see all my info (where I live, phone # etc) and my status posts.

The easiest way to control kids internet? Have their passwords or just don't let them on it.

As for whether or not being online is taking me away from God etc... I found this board online. My fiance's father always posts bible quotes on his FB (in polish and english). I found my church online. I can email my pastor... New technology is only evil if you allow it to be evil.

**Amos_with_goats** · Jan 2nd 2010, 07:09 PM

THis is a good point. Parents have ALWAYS thought their children were doing one thing while they were really doing something else.

I am sure Facespace is no different. The account you are watching may not be the only account... or other such manners of obfuscation. Not that this would be the 'fault' of MeBook, but that it is another thing to be mindful of.

Keep in mind, while our children are NEVER as good as we believe them to be... we ought not to be discouraged. The Greatest Parent EVER left His children in the garden to play nicely and you know how THAT turned out....

Originally Posted by fireflies

I have a FB account. It helps me keep in touch.

But - for those parents who think they can add their child as a friend and see everything? Nope.

There are things called Friend Groups. My Family is all one friend group - and they don't get to see anything unless I want them to... I also have groups for work buddies, old school friends, and acquaintances. Basically, if you're not in my "Inner Circle" group - you would think I never ever post. That is the only group that can see all my info (where I live, phone # etc) and my status posts.

The easiest way to control kids internet? Have their passwords or just don't let them on it.

As for whether or not being online is taking me away from God etc... I found this board online. My fiance's father always posts bible quotes on his FB (in polish and english). I found my church online. I can email my pastor... New technology is only evil if you allow it to be evil.

***Studyin'2Show*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by fireflies

I have a FB account. It helps me keep in touch.

But - for those parents who think they can add their child as a friend and see everything? Nope.

There are things called Friend Groups. My Family is all one friend group - and they don't get to see anything unless I want them to... I also have groups for work buddies, old school friends, and acquaintances. Basically, if you're not in my "Inner Circle" group - you would think I never ever post. That is the only group that can see all my info (where I live, phone # etc) and my status posts.

The easiest way to control kids internet? Have their passwords or just don't let them on it.

As for whether or not being online is taking me away from God etc... I found this board online. My fiance's father always posts bible quotes on his FB (in polish and english). I found my church online. I can email my pastor... New technology is only evil if you allow it to be evil.

I have my son's password and all his email comes to my Outlook. My 20 year old is a grown married woman so, she's already been raised!

***Studyin'2Show*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Amos_with_goats

THis is a good point. Parents have ALWAYS thought their children were doing one thing while they were really doing something else.

I am sure Facespace is no different. The account you are watching may not be the only account... or other such manners of obfuscation. Not that this would be the 'fault' of MeBook, but that it is another thing to be mindful of.

Keep in mind, while our children are NEVER as good as we believe them to be... we ought not to be discouraged. The Greatest Parent EVER left His children in the garden to play nicely and you know how THAT turned out....

The computer is in the living room with the screen facing the couch. No, bedroom pc's in this house.

My now 20 yr old daughter thought we were just being mean but she appreciates that she had boundaries now that she's grown up. Here's a newsflash for you though. If they're going to make up fake FB accts or keep you from seeing their posts, I think FB would be the least of your worries. They can make up a web based email account and start an account on this message board or any other place on the web anyway, with or without FB. MONITOR your minor children!!! No PCs in bedrooms, no laptops that they can take somewhere to post privately. THAT is essential no matter where your children go online. My son was on an online gaming site when some person started asking personal questions. But guess what? I was right there behind him as I ALWAYS am when he's online!

***moonglow*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by fireflies

I have a FB account. It helps me keep in touch.

But - for those parents who think they can add their child as a friend and see everything? Nope.

There are things called Friend Groups. My Family is all one friend group - and they don't get to see anything unless I want them to... I also have groups for work buddies, old school friends, and acquaintances. Basically, if you're not in my "Inner Circle" group - you would think I never ever post. That is the only group that can see all my info (where I live, phone # etc) and my status posts.

The easiest way to control kids internet? Have their passwords or just don't let them on it.

As for whether or not being online is taking me away from God etc... I found this board online. My fiance's father always posts bible quotes on his FB (in polish and english). I found my church online. I can email my pastor... New technology is only evil if you allow it to be evil.

That is true I cannot see what all his friend posts to him if they aren't on my friends list...but just like right now, he asked me to log him out ..so I sit down and scroll through his stuff..

I can log onto his account anytime and check history too. He knows nothing about how the history works on the computer to delete certain sites. He didn't know how to bookmark anything until I showed him either. He has no problems letting me see his wall on facebook. One time the other day he forgot to log out..I got on the computer though was on another site then saw he was getting chat messages from a friend. So I just started talking to her on the chat...lol. When he came back in the room I told him what I was doing too...he didn't care.

Amos_with_goats

THis is a good point. Parents have ALWAYS thought their children were doing one thing while they were really doing something else.

I am sure Facespace is no different. The account you are watching may not be the only account... or other such manners of obfuscation. Not that this would be the 'fault' of MeBook, but that it is another thing to be mindful of.

Keep in mind, while our children are NEVER as good as we believe them to be... we ought not to be discouraged. The Greatest Parent EVER left His children in the garden to play nicely and you know how THAT turned out....

Personally I find it disheartening that parents are looking for the worse in their children...I really do. We automatically assume our children are sneaky wicked kids out to do horrible things on the net. If they are treated that way I am afraid it would set them up to act that way.

Lets not convict them just because they are teenagers! Be watchful of course but lets not assume the worse either. Our kids can easily do bad things at their friends houses too...they might be cussing because their friend cuss (though of course not around us because we are clueless..

) Our kids are probably going to hear bad words at school...outside playing...shoot even while with us shopping for groceries.

If people are THAT worried about their kids then they need to figure out how to put them in bubble. Take away the computer, the TV, the radio..from the world so they won't make any mistakes and possibly learn from them.

A little trust in God I think though and praying for our kids is a better approach.

The computer is in the living room with the screen facing the couch. No, bedroom pc's in this house. My now 20 yr old daughter thought we were just being mean but she appreciates that she had boundaries now that she's grown up. Here's a newsflash for you though. If they're going to make up fake FB accts or keep you from seeing their posts, I think FB would be the least of your worries. They can make up a web based email account and start an account on this message board or any other place on the web anyway, with or without FB. MONITOR your minor children!!! No PCs in bedrooms, no laptops that they can take somewhere to post privately. THAT is essential no matter where your children go online. My son was on an online gaming site when some person started asking personal questions. But guess what? I was right there behind him as I ALWAYS am when he's online!

Me too. The few times any concerns came up (which of course I am concerned most of all about him being safe online) I was right there too and he let me know something was going on. The computer is in the dinning room..can be seen from the living room and kitchen also.

Sounds like you are doing a great job.

God bless

***IMINXTC*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 09:24 PM

Says on the news last night that FB is mentioned in one out of five divorce cases, (including one of the more famous, recent cases). This is not the fault of FB, per se, of course, but is revealing and cause for concern about the entire realm of social networking. What one posts can be used against them...( and can be misconstrued).

**AngelAuthor** · Jan 2nd 2010, 09:40 PM

Our society has yet to "evolve" beyond stupidity when it comes to undersatnding how what you say and do online can be used against you (not just in a court of law). Learning to be circumspect is something that will take time for millions to adapt to.

***Studyin'2Show*** · Jan 2nd 2010, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by SFASH

Says on the news last night that FB is mentioned in one out of five divorce cases, (including one of the more famous, recent cases). This is not the fault of FB, per se, of course, but is revealing and cause for concern about the entire realm of social networking. What one posts can be used against them...( and can be misconstrued).

How dumb is that? Posting about infidelity online.