Environmentalist movement

[Brother Mark]

I was talking to a friend today about the radical environmentalist. They seem off the deep end to me on some things. We were emailing back and forth and talking about the undercurrent in the movement. It all started when we were discussing an article that said the fraction of the CO2 that is absorbed each year has not changed. (IOW, if 50% of the CO2 in the atmosphere was absorbed by water, plants, etc. 100 years ago, then 50% is being absorbed today. That was not what the AGW folks expected.) He wrote me back with something I thought was very interesting. I was wondering what some folks here might think about it.

Here's one email he wrote me back...

The environmental movement became the place that radical socialists and communists went after the fall of the Soviet Union. The Marxists are not stupid.....create a crisis and become the only solution...so, yes, there are spiritual implications.....it is completely Godless....not only that, the basis for their ideology is evolution..this is in direct contradiction to their stated goals...their goals use the idea of saving the planet so people can live without the environmental problems...that contradicts the basic tenants of evolution....ie., survival of the fittest and change in the species created by the environment....they claim to be watching out for the poor while at the same time desiring to raise the cost of living to the detriment of the poor.....still contradicting their faith in evolution...it all comes down to power and control.....wealth and power for the few elite.

The first few sentences really got my attention. I had told him I thought there was something spiritual (and not in a good way) behind the movement and that is what he wrote back.

[Brother Mark]

So I wrote him back and said something about true believers being in the movement and here is what he wrote back.

The old-time environmentalists are true believers.....it is their religion. The socialists/communists joined their cause and made their crisis, abuse of "mother" earth, a created scientific crisis which could elicit emotion from the unsuspecting....and thus gain control. When you listen to them at the Copenhagen fiasco you can hear the redistribution of wealth theme all through it....not to improve the lives of people but to bring capitalism down and increase the wealth of governments and politicians.

Sounds to me like the guy is onto something. That socialist bent is I have seen from the environmentalist movement the last decade and what has caused me to back up and take a closer look at it.

[paidforinfull]

I don't know anything about it being socialistic in nature, but I always believed the whole 'Green' movement to be 'New Agey'. It is quite possible that groups with political agendas could use it for their own purposes.

(In a broader sense, every person should be concerned with protecting the environment, since human beings are the appointed caredtakers of Earth and its creatures.)

[AngelAuthor]

Oh there's no doubt that the environmentalist movement has been hijacked by the political, socialist powers of the world in an attempt to seize control. True tree-huggers like Daryl Hannah and the less violent members of ELF have a genuine concern and a belief that we are destroying the planet and they live their convictions through a restrained life. The world government leaders and the loudest voices now talking about climate change, on the other hand have simply sought to seize more power and control from the masses using this cunningly-crafted ploy 40 years ago in 1970... (wow 40 years ago was 1970), the environmentalist movement was much smaller and reeived much less coverage and attention, but the people in the movement were pretty much all genuine. Then I believe, the energy crisis of the 70s hit and gave certain high-powered figures an idea that they could use "Mother Earth" as yet another front on their war for control. The first Earth Day was hardly a blip on the radar in 1970. Once these people got involved, laying the foundation for their plans, it became much larger in the late 70s and in the 80s it was a bona-fide phenomenon.

What it comes down to, in all honesty, is the same thing that anything the left hijacks, like education. You have to carefully examine individual elements for themselves while ignoring the corporate element. Look at the NEA and the state of Education in this country, hijacked by the left. It's TERRIBLE, it's FAILING, and it's unstoppable. But if you talk with individual teachers, you can find many good hearts and conservative intentions within the system...makes you wonder how the whole tihng is going to Hell in a handbasket the way it is. Same with the environmentalists. Listen to what you see in the news and coming from the "corporate" level of Climate Change and it's rubbish. Talk with individuals who are actually concerned for the environment and you get a different, more genuine story. People who put their aluminum cans where their mouth is.