Are there someone who can explain,2 Cor.11:1-4

[roaring tiger]

2 Cor.11:1-4 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
2] For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:for I have espoused you to one husband,that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3] But I fear, lest by any means,the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtility, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
4] For if that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if you received another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel,which we have not accepted,ye might wll bear with him.
How could it be,that being espoused to one husband can be present as a chaste virgin to Christ?

[markedward]

"I have espoused you to one husband"

= Paul has engaged the Church to be wedded to their future husband, Christ.

"that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ"

= Since the Church has been engaged to wed Christ, Paul seeks to keep the Church as pure from sin as possible.

At the time Paul was writing, the Church had not yet been married to Christ. It was engaged to marry Christ, but the wedding had not yet taken place. So, Paul was encouraging the members of the Church to remain faithful to their future husband and to not sin, lest they be led away from him.

[roaring tiger]

"I have espoused you to one husband"

= Paul has engaged the Church to be wedded to their future husband, Christ.

"that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ"

= Since the Church has been engaged to wed Christ, Paul seeks to keep the Church as pure from sin as possible.

At the time Paul was writing, the Church had not yet been married to Christ. It was engaged to marry Christ, but the wedding had not yet taken place. So, Paul was encouraging the members of the Church to remain faithful to their future husband and to not sin, lest they be led away from him.

Hi...MarkEdward,How are you?
In general I understood your post that Christ being the head of church is the would be husband of the church,but individually every reader of the scripture has a wide range of view or interpretation of context.Let me give you
an example ,giving a spiritual context with following verses.When Jesus was making a coversation with a woman,John 4: 16 Jesus saith unto her,Go,call thy husband,and come hither.17]The woman answered and said, I have no husband.Jesus said unto her,Thou has well said,I have no husband;18]For thou hast five husbands and he whom thou now hast is not the husband; in that saidst thou truly.
in this verse 2 Cor. 11:2 has been already disregard because,as what was witten in Isaiah 54:5 For thy maker is thine husband;the Lord of host is his name and the Redeemer the Holy One of Israel:the God of the whole earth shall be he called.In Deutronomy 5:7-9 God had for warned Israel 7] thou shalt not have other Gods before me. 8] Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above,or that is in earth beneath,or that is in the waters beneath the earth.9] Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them,nor serve them;for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God,visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.
1 Cor.2:12 Now we have received,not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.In 2 Cor.11:4 warned us ,For he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preach,or if ye RECEIVE ANOTHER SPIRIT,WHICH YE HAVE NOT RECEIVED,or another gospel,which ye had not accepted,ye might well bear with him.In view of this verses if we praise another spirit other than the spirit that you had already receive [Life] you are being beguiled by the serpent to commit adultery to other god.
So. If you cannot agree on what I share, I'll go back to 2 Cor. 11:1 Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

Thanks and God Bless.../RT

[nzyr]

The apostle Paul is saying we are to be faithful to Jesus. And not turn aside to any silly philosophies or cults.

[roaring tiger]

The apostle Paul is saying we are to be faithful to Jesus. And not turn aside to any silly philosophies or cults.

Hi...nzyr how are you?
What silly philosolhies or cult???...
What I post here was all written in the bible and I interpret the context using other parts of the scripture I did not write my own word or opinion that you can say that I used philosophy nor I practise cult.
Even so.your quote is biazed,unfoundedand unrighteous; I owe a lots of thanks to you,in the name of Jesus Christ and glory be to God.

With love and God Bless.RT

[th1bill]

Hi...MarkEdward,How are you?
In general I understood your post that Christ being the head of church is the would be husband of the church,but individually every reader of the scripture has a wide range of view or interpretation of context.

... There is a point about scripture that is nost often over looked. Some people of the world are filled with the Holy Spirit and unfortunately most of the world is not and a great many in the church, regestered members also are not filled with the Spirit. The advantage of being filled with the Spirit is that while each person will have what is necessary for their spiritual growth. The amazing part is that, while the revelation of the Spirit to the folks will oft be different they never disagree but rather dove-tail to gether to form a better understanding.
... I do't know about markEdward but what I find difficult about your post id that mark gave a very good understanding of the sought after info but you seem to have posted scriptures without comment. In other words, please, is there a point?

[roaring tiger]

... There is a point about scripture that is nost often over looked. Some people of the world are filled with the Holy Spirit and unfortunately most of the world is not and a great many in the church, regestered members also are not filled with the Spirit. The advantage of being filled with the Spirit is that while each person will have what is necessary for their spiritual growth. The amazing part is that, while the revelation of the Spirit to the folks will oft be different they never disagree but rather dove-tail to gether to form a better understanding.
... I do't know about markEdward but what I find difficult about your post id that mark gave a very good understanding of the sought after info but you seem to have posted scriptures without comment. In other words, please, is there a point?

Hi,,,Sir th1bill,How are you,
I'm so sorry that I had not been able to respond immediately co'z of some reason.My answer is Yes...there is a point like you,,,I was also trying my best to speak according to preaching of Jesus. in John 12 :35-36 While ye have light with you walk while you have the light, lest darkness come upon you; for he that walk in the darkness knoweth not he goeth.
It is my way in sharing to others not to explain it by my own words because I'm not preaching myself,but the words of God;that's why I prefer to answer it by scripture...to let scripture interpret scripture for I believe that
where the spirit of the Lord dwelt ,there is the liberty.My point are there ,you overlooked on it.Jesus gave us a clue on how to deal with his word.John 6;63 It is the spirit that quickeneth;the flesh profiteth nothing; the words that I speak unto you,They are spirit,and they are life.so, when Jesus said to the woman,Go, call thy husband,and come hither.Joh.4:17 The woman answered and said,I have no husband.Jesus said unto her,Thou has well said
I have no husband; 18] For thou has had five husbands;and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband;in that saidst thou truly.WE cannot judge that woman for her doing so I gave Isa. 54:5 For thy maker is thine husband;the
Lord of Host is his name and the Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The god of the whole earth shall he be called.
We are for warn in2 Cor.11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we had not preach, or if you receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye had not accepted,ye might well bear with him. 1 Cor. 2:12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world,but the spirit which is of God; that we might know things that freely given to us by God.
comment=By this words now we can judge that woman being an adulterer,why? Isa. 54:5 already said that thy maker is your husband,and Deut.5:7 commandeth us not to have other God before me.That is why Paul said 2Cor.11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy; for I had espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin.In case of the woman ,having five husband ,have also spiritual meaning for that is another thread.
If by this explanation you can't understand the fact, I have no more can do because it was written in Mat.13: 14 And in them is fullfilled the prophesy of Esaias,which saith ,By hearing ye shall hear, and not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
So, if you cannot agree on what I share I'll be back in 2 Cor.11:1Would to God ye could bear with me a little folly; and indeed bear with me.
Thank you so much and God Bless.RT.

[Firstfruits]

Hi...nzyr how are you?
What silly philosolhies or cult???...
What I post here was all written in the bible and I interpret the context using other parts of the scripture I did not write my own word or opinion that you can say that I used philosophy nor I practise cult.
Even so.your quote is biazed,unfoundedand unrighteous; I owe a lots of thanks to you,in the name of Jesus Christ and glory be to God.

With love and God Bless.RT

In regards to being true to Jesus, how would you explain the following scripture?

Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

I believe the following may help to show how important it is to hold to the truth of the gospel.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.



Firstfruits

[roaring tiger]

In regards to being true to Jesus, how would you explain the following scripture?

Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

I believe the following may help to show how important it is to hold to the truth of the gospel.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.



Firstfruits

Hi,,,Firstfruit How are you?
How beautiful is your code name and avatar.Thanks for your thread, that give me a chance to express my opinion about yhe matter you sought from me, but first give an excuse for my grammar co'z speaking in this is being foreigner for me, maybe because of lacked in formal education.
Now, let me tackle the verse that you quote on me, but I would like suggest to you that learn this spiritually,as it is written in ! Cor. 2:9-10 But it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither enter to into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.10] But God hath revealed them unto us by his spiri; for the spirit searcht all things, yea, the deep things of God.And Jesus also told us inJohn 6:63 It is the spirit
that quickeneth: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and are life.
To clarify all things that you sought me let me excerpt additonal verses in Rom.7:1-5Know ye not, brethen,[ for I speak to them that know the law] how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2] For the woman which hath a husband is bound by the law to her so long as she liveth: but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3] So then if, while her husband liveth, she be maried to another man she shall be called an adulteress: but if his husband be dead, she is free from the law: so she is no adulteress, though she be married to anuther man.
4] Wherefore, my brethen,Ye are also become dead to the law by the body of Christ: that you could married to another even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth unto God.
5] For when we are in flesh, the motion of sins, which were by the law, did works in our menbers to ring forth unto death.
Let me site back the words of Jesus to the woman,John 4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not the husband; in that saidst thou truly. spiritually she commit adulteress.How?
Romans 8: 4-10 That the righteousness of the law might be fullfilled in us, who not after the flesh, but after the spirit.
5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the spirit the things of the Spirit.
6] For to be carnally minded is death: but to be spirtually minded is life and peace.
7] Because the carnal mind is enmity to God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8] so then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10] And if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Comment=While we live and commit sins,it was as stated in v.7, a carnal mind is enmity to God, therfore we obey the spirit of evil,instead of God and we now commit adultery.
Rom.7:11 But the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwelt in you.
Who is the dead husband? Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your menbers which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanliness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness,which is idolatry.
To whom should you be married? and How? Hosea 2:19-20 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgement,and in lovingliness, and in mercies.
20] I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfullness; and thou shalt know the Lord.
How? Ephe.2: 13-18 But now in Christ ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14] For he is our peace,who hath made both one, and hath broken down the the middle wall of partition [ sins] between us.
15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain [spirit and soul] one new man, so making of peace.
16]And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross,having slain thy enmity {sins] thereby.
17]And came and preached peace to you afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18] For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Amen...Thank you and God Bless you.../RT

[Firstfruits]

Hi,,,Firstfruit How are you?
How beautiful is your code name and avatar.Thanks for your thread, that give me a chance to express my opinion about yhe matter you sought from me, but first give an excuse for my grammar co'z speaking in this is being foreigner for me, maybe because of lacked in formal education.
Now, let me tackle the verse that you quote on me, but I would like suggest to you that learn this spiritually,as it is written in ! Cor. 2:9-10 But it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither enter to into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.10] But God hath revealed them unto us by his spiri; for the spirit searcht all things, yea, the deep things of God.And Jesus also told us inJohn 6:63 It is the spirit
that quickeneth: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and are life.
To clarify all things that you sought me let me excerpt additonal verses in Rom.7:1-5Know ye not, brethen,[ for I speak to them that know the law] how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2] For the woman which hath a husband is bound by the law to her so long as she liveth: but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3] So then if, while her husband liveth, she be maried to another man she shall be called an adulteress: but if his husband be dead, she is free from the law: so she is no adulteress, though she be married to anuther man.
4] Wherefore, my brethen,Ye are also become dead to the law by the body of Christ: that you could married to another even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth unto God.
5] For when we are in flesh, the motion of sins, which were by the law, did works in our menbers to ring forth unto death.
Let me site back the words of Jesus to the woman,John 4:18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not the husband; in that saidst thou truly. spiritually she commit adulteress.How?
Romans 8: 4-10 That the righteousness of the law might be fullfilled in us, who not after the flesh, but after the spirit.
5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the spirit the things of the Spirit.
6] For to be carnally minded is death: but to be spirtually minded is life and peace.
7] Because the carnal mind is enmity to God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8] so then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10] And if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Comment=While we live and commit sins,it was as stated in v.7, a carnal mind is enmity to God, therfore we obey the spirit of evil,instead of God and we now commit adultery.
Rom.7:11 But the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwelt in you.
Who is the dead husband? Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your menbers which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanliness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness,which is idolatry.
To whom should you be married? and How? Hosea 2:19-20 And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgement,and in lovingliness, and in mercies.
20] I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfullness; and thou shalt know the Lord.
How? Ephe.2: 13-18 But now in Christ ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14] For he is our peace,who hath made both one, and hath broken down the the middle wall of partition [ sins] between us.
15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain [spirit and soul] one new man, so making of peace.
16]And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross,having slain thy enmity {sins] thereby.
17]And came and preached peace to you afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18] For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Amen...Thank you and God Bless you.../RT

Thanks RT,

If we therefore abide in Jesus, we shall not walk in sin/darkness, which means that if we sin we are not abiding in Jesus, we are not being true to whome we are promised.

Jn 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

Jn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jn 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it Abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye Abide in me.

Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Jn 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Jn 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

1 Cor 7:20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

1 Cor 7:24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.

1 Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

God bless you!

Firstfruits

[roaring tiger]

Hi,,,Firstfruit,How are you?

Thanks for blessing,Indeed, what we post is true.

Rom.8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

Again , Thank You and God Bless./RT

[Firstfruits]

Hi,,,Firstfruit,How are you?

Thanks for blessing,Indeed, what we post is true.

Rom.8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

Again , Thank You and God Bless./RT

Thank you Roaring Tiger,

May God bless you too!!

Firstfruits