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    I need help :The glory of the begotten Son.

    Hi!!!Everyone,

    I don't know if this has been post already but I need your very important opinion regarding this thread.

    John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh,and dwelt among us,[ and we beheld his glory, the glory as

    of the only begotten of the Father,] full of grace and truth.What is the glory of the Son that the

    disciple beheld.

    Thanks in advance for your share./RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roaring tiger View Post
    Hi!!!Everyone,

    I don't know if this has been post already but I need your very important opinion regarding this thread.

    John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh,and dwelt among us,[ and we beheld his glory, the glory as

    of the only begotten of the Father,] full of grace and truth.What is the glory of the Son that the

    disciple beheld.

    Thanks in advance for your share./RT.
    His Goodness..... the Glory of God is His Goodness...

    if you look back at the OT in Exodous....... It was His Goodness that was revealed as His Glory...


    God is the only one that is Good... and Jesus as God in the flesh... went about DOING GOOD.. and healing all those that were oppressed of the devil..

    He is God in the flesh, Full of Grace and Truth... and His Glory is His Goodness.. and this was demonstrated in the Person of Jesus Christ... from an Eternal Perspective.. Jesus is the Goodness of God.. He is the Righteousness of God... He is the Glory of God.. because God didn't have to send His Son here to Die in our place.. No He didn't.. but out of His Goodness.. which nobody can even relate or touch... HE DID.. and His Son under Obedience and the Father's will went to the Tree... Laying down His life for His Friends... This is what His Disciples 'witnessed' first hand.. and they Handled the Word of Life.. the last time handling Him as they 'took Him down from that bloody Tree'.. after He had given His Life a Ransom...

    God's Glory is His Goodness... and it was demonstrated and Manifested in the Person of Jesus the Christ.. God manifest in the flesh..
    Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
    ------------------------------------------------
    Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
    ------------------------------------------------
    The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
    Jeremiah 31:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBelovedDisciple View Post
    His Goodness..... the Glory of God is His Goodness...

    if you look back at the OT in Exodous....... It was His Goodness that was revealed as His Glory...


    God is the only one that is Good... and Jesus as God in the flesh... went about DOING GOOD.. and healing all those that were oppressed of the devil..

    He is God in the flesh, Full of Grace and Truth... and His Glory is His Goodness.. and this was demonstrated in the Person of Jesus Christ... from an Eternal Perspective.. Jesus is the Goodness of God.. He is the Righteousness of God... He is the Glory of God.. because God didn't have to send His Son here to Die in our place.. No He didn't.. but out of His Goodness.. which nobody can even relate or touch... HE DID.. and His Son under Obedience and the Father's will went to the Tree... Laying down His life for His Friends... This is what His Disciples 'witnessed' first hand.. and they Handled the Word of Life.. the last time handling Him as they 'took Him down from that bloody Tree'.. after He had given His Life a Ransom...

    God's Glory is His Goodness... and it was demonstrated and Manifested in the Person of Jesus the Christ.. God manifest in the flesh..
    Hi!!!theBelovedDisciple,
    Thank you so much or your quote,I agree on what you wrote because it is right and true.
    I apologize for I had not make clarification on the inept of my thread,which the question is not glory
    but"glorify"which had other meaning than glory.Glorify is to honor,or high praise to exalt,such as
    example phrase.John 12:18Father,glorify the name.Then came there a voice from heaven, saying
    I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
    John 7:18 He that speak of himself seeketh his own glory:but he that seeketh his glory that sent him,
    the same is true, and no unrighteousness on him. [this the context of my topic]
    John 17:1,5 These words spale Jesus, and lifted his eyes to heaven, and said,Father, the hour is come ;glorify the Son, the Son may glorify thee:
    v.5]And now O Father gloyify thou me with thine ownself with the glory which I had before the world was.
    1 Cor.10:31 Whether therefore ye eat,or drink, or whatsoever ye do,do it all to the glory of God.
    Q.in spiritual meaning what shall we eat and drink to glorify Jesus?
    2 Cor.3:17-18 Now the Lord is Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.
    v.18]But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the
    same image from glory to glory,even as by the Spirit of the Lord.[this is what i want to know.HELP!!!
    Gen.3:19In the sweat of the face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out
    of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
    Jesus said,For I was an hungered,and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:
    I was a stranger, and ye took me in: brother...i'm hunger...
    in love of Christ./RT. QUOTE>

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    Quote Originally Posted by roaring tiger View Post
    Hi!!!theBelovedDisciple,
    Thank you so much or your quote,I agree on what you wrote because it is right and true.
    I apologize for I had not make clarification on the inept of my thread,which the question is not glory
    but"glorify"which had other meaning than glory.Glorify is to honor,or high praise to exalt,such as
    example phrase.John 12:18Father,glorify the name.Then came there a voice from heaven, saying
    I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
    John 7:18 He that speak of himself seeketh his own glory:but he that seeketh his glory that sent him,
    the same is true, and no unrighteousness on him. [this the context of my topic]
    John 17:1,5 These words spale Jesus, and lifted his eyes to heaven, and said,Father, the hour is come ;glorify the Son, the Son may glorify thee:
    v.5]And now O Father gloyify thou me with thine ownself with the glory which I had before the world was.
    1 Cor.10:31 Whether therefore ye eat,or drink, or whatsoever ye do,do it all to the glory of God.
    Q.in spiritual meaning what shall we eat and drink to glorify Jesus?
    2 Cor.3:17-18 Now the Lord is Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.
    v.18]But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the
    same image from glory to glory,even as by the Spirit of the Lord.[this is what i want to know.HELP!!!
    Gen.3:19In the sweat of the face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out
    of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
    Jesus said,For I was an hungered,and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:
    I was a stranger, and ye took me in: brother...i'm hunger...
    in love of Christ./RT. QUOTE>
    Greetings RT,

    Glorification meaning Preminence in all things..?

    Jesus was with the Father at the Beginning of all things.. They are Eternal.. exisitng.. always... they are the Source of all Life.. and all that the Father Has is Jesus's Jesus is the Word of God.. and by Him all things exist..they were created by Him , Thru Him, and for Him... Jesus is Glorified from the Beginning...

    but you see there was a problem in the Beginning...something called sin and death entered in.. which was never suppose to be there... so God had a plan.. and that was to eventually get Rid of Sin and 'death'.. once and for all... His Plan was to Send His Son, Jesus the Christ.. to solve the Problem.. and He did.. and Jesus did what He was sent to do. die on a Tree. so that man could be reconciled back to the Father.. only thru Jesus Christ .. so that some time in the Future... sin and death will be no more... Just like it was suppose to be in the Garden.. and God has ordained a Judge.. Jesus Christ the Righteous.. to handle that... and when it is all said and done.. then Jesus can deliver up the Kingdom to the Father.. so that God will be in all... death and sin will be no more...

    Christ is now Glorified.. because of what He did on that tree... all seats and thrones and principalities whether visible or invisible.. being made subject onto Him... this after He Ascended back into Heaven.. where He came from... and sat down at the Right Hand of the Power of God...

    Was Christ Glorified thru Fame because of the mighty physical battles He won like David or Saul?? by being popular with everybody in Isreal? a conquering hero according to their fleshly eyes? No,

    Christ was Glorified thru SUFFERING,OBEDIENCE.. HUMILITY, HAVING BASICALLY NOTHING,AND EVENTUALLY A HORRIFIC PHYSICAL DEATH ON THAT BLOODY TREE... Laying down His life for His Friends...

    tHE Word tells us Jesus learned Obedience thru what He Suffered...

    The Father would have it no other way... Before Glory.. there is suffering...

    Christ had to suffer first.. and then Enter His Glory... and He did.. and by what He did.. He conquered Death, Hell and the Grave.. and destroyed the works of the devil.. taking the power of death from him... thru Physical death.. He conquered Death.. this by God the Father raising Him from the Dead.. thru the spirit of Holiness.. because He is the Holy One of Isreal.. and the grave couldn't even Hold Him... He's Alive today..

    Christ is Glorified... but not the way the world would view or think it.. but it was thru His Physical Death and Resurrection... He had to suffer first.. this opposite of what the world tells you...

    His Word says.... Our ways are not His Ways.. and Our thoughts are not His thoughts..

    this very evident by the Way He Glorified His Son Jesus Christ.. all this so that Man can have Eternal Life.. thru His Son... He that hath the Son hath Eternal Life..

    if your His Today... God and Christ will be glorified as you go thru persectuion, slander, tribulation, affliction, as you go thru these things... Your Trusting In Him.. and in it His name is Glorified as others watch and observe what happens to you..
    Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
    ------------------------------------------------
    Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
    ------------------------------------------------
    The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
    Jeremiah 31:3

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    Quote Originally Posted by theBelovedDisciple View Post
    Greetings RT,

    Glorification meaning Preminence in all things..?

    Jesus was with the Father at the Beginning of all things.. They are Eternal.. exisitng.. always... they are the Source of all Life.. and all that the Father Has is Jesus's Jesus is the Word of God.. and by Him all things exist..they were created by Him , Thru Him, and for Him... Jesus is Glorified from the Beginning...

    but you see there was a problem in the Beginning...something called sin and death entered in.. which was never suppose to be there... so God had a plan.. and that was to eventually get Rid of Sin and 'death'.. once and for all... His Plan was to Send His Son, Jesus the Christ.. to solve the Problem.. and He did.. and Jesus did what He was sent to do. die on a Tree. so that man could be reconciled back to the Father.. only thru Jesus Christ .. so that some time in the Future... sin and death will be no more... Just like it was suppose to be in the Garden.. and God has ordained a Judge.. Jesus Christ the Righteous.. to handle that... and when it is all said and done.. then Jesus can deliver up the Kingdom to the Father.. so that God will be in all... death and sin will be no more...

    Christ is now Glorified.. because of what He did on that tree... all seats and thrones and principalities whether visible or invisible.. being made subject onto Him... this after He Ascended back into Heaven.. where He came from... and sat down at the Right Hand of the Power of God...

    Was Christ Glorified thru Fame because of the mighty physical battles He won like David or Saul?? by being popular with everybody in Isreal? a conquering hero according to their fleshly eyes? No,

    Christ was Glorified thru SUFFERING,OBEDIENCE.. HUMILITY, HAVING BASICALLY NOTHING,AND EVENTUALLY A HORRIFIC PHYSICAL DEATH ON THAT BLOODY TREE... Laying down His life for His Friends...

    tHE Word tells us Jesus learned Obedience thru what He Suffered...

    The Father would have it no other way... Before Glory.. there is suffering...

    Christ had to suffer first.. and then Enter His Glory... and He did.. and by what He did.. He conquered Death, Hell and the Grave.. and destroyed the works of the devil.. taking the power of death from him... thru Physical death.. He conquered Death.. this by God the Father raising Him from the Dead.. thru the spirit of Holiness.. because He is the Holy One of Isreal.. and the grave couldn't even Hold Him... He's Alive today..

    Christ is Glorified... but not the way the world would view or think it.. but it was thru His Physical Death and Resurrection... He had to suffer first.. this opposite of what the world tells you...

    His Word says.... Our ways are not His Ways.. and Our thoughts are not His thoughts..

    this very evident by the Way He Glorified His Son Jesus Christ.. all this so that Man can have Eternal Life.. thru His Son... He that hath the Son hath Eternal Life..

    if your His Today... God and Christ will be glorified as you go thru persectuion, slander, tribulation, affliction, as you go thru these things... Your Trusting In Him.. and in it His name is Glorified as
    others watch and observe what happens to you..
    theBelovedDisciple,Greetings
    as what you have written,I see that all of the works of God is very good.
    Thank you so much./RT.

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