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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckrl View Post
    Cyber, I really like what you have layed out. Although I'm sure i'm still missing something, so please continue.
    Hi Astro, Beckrl,

    I dont feel that I can continue with my view of the 1290/1305 days unless we first look at the matter of the ancient Hebrew calendar. So rather than derail this topic, Ive started a new one here. God' Hidden Calendar

    Hopefully this will provide background to these rather mysterious numbers in Dan 12:11-12.

    Cyber
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    Hi Astro,
    Here is my theory on 1,260 days...1,290 days... 1,335 days. Since the Spring Jewish Feasts were completely and utterly fulfilled by Jesus...What about the Fall feasts at his return (see Leviticus 23)?

    1. The Great Tribulation begins on an unknown date- When the Anti-Christ descerates a future, rebuilt temple. Jesus tells the disciples that it would not begin in the winter or on the Sabbath- Matthew 24:15-21. (in other words, could prayer actually alter the day when the Great Tribulation begins?)

    2. When the temple is desecrated by the AC, we have exactly 1,260 days. When we then know that Jesus is going to return. Yet, the Feast of Trumpets is always the first day of the 7th month in the Jewish Calendar. If Jesus is going to fulfill the Fall Jewish feasts at His return perfectly in sync, how can that be?

    Some fundamentals assumptions that we know about related to times, seasons:
    1. 1 day = 1 complete rotation on the earth's axis (24 Hours)
    2. 1 lunar month (roughly 30 days)
    3. 1 year= 360 days. (rotation on the earth's axis) Every 3 years or so, an extra month as has already been noted (Adar 1 and Adar II) is added to the Hebrew.

    Now, we add passages such as Matthew 24:21-22; Isaiah 24:20; And all of the passages of the book of Revelation describing major earthquakes (Revelation 6:12, 8:5, 11:3, 11:19; and then 16:18) There was a science news report that the 8.8 earthquake actually shortened the length of day on the earth (see assumption #1 above).

    With all the quaking and shaking on the earth during the Great Tribulation, I think it literally shortens the length of the days in a significant way-especially at the very end. (example, what if in #1 above defined above, it only took 20 hours to do 1 complete rotation on the earth's axis because of some big quakes- like 10-12+ on the Richter scale?)

    So given this, here is my theory:

    + 1,260 days begins on ??? Jesus said pray that it would not begin on the Sabbath or in winter (Matthew 24:15-20, Mark 13:18-19).

    + Jesus returns on the Feast of Trumpets (the end of the 1,260 day period in Daniel, Revelation 13:5) but due to the shifting of days and months due to earthquakes and disturbances in the moon etc. {Rev. 6:12-17 Haggai 2:6-7; Matthew 24:29; Mark 13:24-25; Luke 21:25-26; etc} the 1,260 day period (solar calendar) ends up landing on exactly the Feast of Trumpets (Leviticus 23:23).

    + Jesus actually ends the battle for Jerusalem on the 10th of the 7th month and cleanses the temple (Day of Atonement- Leviticus 23:26) based on the Lunar calendar (time marker #2 above) , but it is actually on the 1,290th solar day (see time frame #1) because of all the shaking and trouble with the heavenly bodies (Mark 13:24-25; Luke 21:25-26) at the return of Jesus.

    +Jesus then re-starts the calendar and in setting things back in order following the great tribulation, It is now 1,335 day (solar calendar) but with the resetting of the sun, moon, and earth's rotational axis, the Millenial reign of Jesus actually begins with the feast of Tabernacles (the 15th day of the "7th month"- Leviticus 23:33).

    O.K. let's blast away!

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    Re: 1290 days, 1335 days (Dan. 12:10-12)

    I would like to add my understanding of the 1,290 and 1,335 days of Daniel 12

    In both the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelation, we are given to understand that in the future there shall come a seven year period of tribulation (Dan. 9:27). This period is to be diveded into two equal parts: the beginning of sorrows (Matt. 24:5-8); and the great tribulation (Matt. 24:21). The last 3 1/2 years (the Great Tribulation), is what is being referred to in Daniel Chapter 12. It's the time of Jacob's trouble (Jer. 30:7). The 1,260 days of great tribulation, are accompanied by two short periods of time. The first period refer to events which usher it in, and the second to things which will bring it to its conclusion.

    Daniel 12:7 states,
    "...it shall be for a time, times and half, and when he shall have accompolished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished ."
    Rev. 12: 6,14 amplifies on this:
    "And the woman fled into the wildreness , where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand, two hundred and threescore days...
    ...into her place, where she is nourished for a time, times and half a time, from the face of the serpent."

    These verses are in agreement, and together they establish the time period of 1,260 days of great tribulation.

    In Dan. 12:11-12, we find the two shorter time periods, mentioned above, which are related, although they are found on opposite ends of the great tribulation period. The first is a 30 day period which occurs just prior to the beginning of the 1,260 of great tribulation, whereby we arrive at the 1,290 day figure. This time period deals with the pollution of the temple which is to be rebuilt in Jerusalem during the tribulaion period. The second period is a 75 day extension of time following the great tribulation, during which the pollution is cleansed and the temple is re-dedicated. This gives us the 1,335 day period. The verses concerning this read as follows:

    "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
    Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."

    "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,..."

    This phrase tells us that we are to begin counting the days from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away. Traditionally, it has been understood by many that this day, and the day wherein the abomination of desolation is set up, are one and the same. However, if we consider that these two events occur, not simultaneously, but within a very close interval, then the 30 day period becomes more apparent. Thirty days before the midpoint of the tribulation may be the very time that the Gentiles will be given control of the city (Rev. 11:2). The Scripture may be conveying the idea here, that the daily sacrifice will be taken away; and then 30 days later, at the exact mid-point of the seven year tribulation period, the abomination of desolation (the image of the beast - Rev. 13:14-17) shall be set up.

    We know, from Rev. 13 and II Thess. 2: 3-4, that the abomination of desolation will be set up in the temple when the Antichrist enters therein and proclaims himself to be God. That event will usher in the 1,260 days (42 months) of great tribulation.

    Therefore, what we may be seeing here is, the final thirty days of the time span called, "the beginning of sorrows", as a transitional period, whereby the daily sacrifice of the Jews is halted; and the image of the beast is created (Rev. 13:14). The culmination of this thirty day period will result in the dedication of the image in the temple at Jerusalem (the abomination of desolation, is set up); and the proclaimation by the Antichrist that he is God. Hence, 1,230 days into the first half of the seven years of tribulation, the daily sacrifice will be taken away. The setting up of the image of the beast 30 days later, will end the period (1,260 days) referred to as, "the beginning of sorrows", and commence the 1,260 days of "great tribulation". So, from the taking away of the daily sacrifice, until the end of the "great tribulation", equals 1,290 days.

    "..the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days..."

    The 1,335 day mentioned here, should not be seen as a 45 day extension of the 1,290 day period; but rather as a 75 day period following the 1,260 days of great tribulation. This is because the temple is actually polluted on day one of the great tribulation, not thirty days prior to it when the daily sacrifice was taken away. So our counting of the 1,335 days should begin with day one of the "great tribulation".

    To understand how all of this fits together, we need to look at the Feast Days of Israel in (Lev. 23), which are prophetic in structure. In that chapter, we read of seven holy days which Israel is to observe each year. These are called "holy convocations" (public rehersals), and are a foreshadow of the work of the coming Messiah (Jesus). Here ia a brief outline of how the first four of these feast days were fulfilled, and how the remaining three may be fulfilled to bring about the 1,335 days.

    Fulfilled (Spring):

    1) Passover - 14 Nissan - Jesus killed as the Passover Lamb
    2) Unleavened Bread - begins 15 Nissan as Jesus, the Bread of Life, buried
    3) Firstfruits - Sunday after First sabbath of unleavened bread, Jesus rises from grave
    4) Feast of weeks (Pentecost) - Church is empowered at Jerusalem

    Summer Growing season may be reckoned as the Church age

    Yet to be fulfilled (Fall)

    5) Feast of trumpets - 1 Tishri, (Church fulfills this feast by Rapture)- Which Feast of Trumpets?
    6) Day of Atonement - 10 Tishri, Jesus returns to Jerusalem with Church, 7 years after rapture
    7) Feast of Tabernacles - begins 15 Tishri - Jesus rules and reigns with saints 1,000 years

    In my undertanding, the church will be taken up at some future Feast of Trumpets. Then 10 days later (the 11th Tishri) The seven years of tribulation will begin with the antichrist covenant with Israel.
    Exactly 7 years later on 10 Tishri (the Day of Atonement) Jesus will return with the saints to save Israel, destroy the Antichrist and begin setting up His kingdom.

    It would be at this point that we see the start of the 75 day period of Daniel 12 by which we can understand the 1,335 day mystery, which concludes with the cleansing of the temple in which Messiah will dwell.

    If we count 75 days from the Day of Atonement, that brings us to the Jewish holy days of Hanukkah (Chanuka). The word Hanukkah means, "dedication" and is mentioned in Scripture as the "feast of the dedication" (John 10:22).

    So it would be 1,290 days from the time the daily sacrifice is taken away until the end of the great tribulation; and 1,335 days from the time the abomination of desolation is set up until the temple is cleansed and rededicated (on Hanukkah).
    Last edited by webberman; Feb 6th 2011 at 02:05 PM. Reason: typo corrections

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