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    Adam and Eve

    This is a bit of a “silly” question, but I've often wondered if Adam and Eve had belly buttons. I’m interested in your responses.
    If yes, how?
    And if no, why aren’t the belly buttons of actors/actresses covered via make-up or digitally removed in films.

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    I'll have to go with no. They were not born of a woman thus there was no connection to the mother via the umbilical cord.

    As far was why they are not removed in movies, not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -SEEKING- View Post
    I'll have to go with no. They were not born of a woman thus there was no connection to the mother via the umbilical cord.

    As far was why they are not removed in movies, not sure.
    We sure Adam and Eve according to the bible were never in a womb and therefore would have no umbilical cord which in turn creates your belly button.

    Your answer makes me ask a second question. What does it mean then when people say humans were created in the image of God? Does it mean literally we look the same or does it carry a more metaphoric meaning? Like we were created in his image in the sense of having emotions and complex thought.

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    I have another follow up about Adam and Eve. How exactly did the human race expand from these two people. Obviously they have children who had children etc. I mean more along the lines of did God expect the human race to succeed ofo of insestial relations early in the grand "family tree"? This seems pretty disgusting to me, why wouldn't God have just made like 20 people so this didn't happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLAX12 View Post
    What does it mean then when people say humans were created in the image of God?
    Of all of the living creatures on the earth, God made humans different from animals. What is it that humans have or can do that animals cannot? It means we're knowledgeable and spiritually aware. Only human beings are able to know things and consciously decide their actions. Only human beings are "spiritual" creatures, in that seek and desire a meaning or purpose beyond simply our earthly life. Animals don't know things, they aren't aware of things beyond the here-and-now, and they certainly don't seek or desire meaning beyond their physical existence.

    Like we were created in his image in the sense of having emotions and complex thought.
    This is more of what it means, as opposed to us being a literal, physical image of God.

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    I am not as familiar with the bible as many of you but I was wodnering what gave you this interruptation and not a literal one?

    Just to play devil's advocate, how do you know that no other animals are "spiritual creatures"?

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    To me personally, "in God's image" denotes value. We're valuable to God as something very special in all of His creation. That's why Jesus (i.e. God Himself) had to come and pay the price for us because nothing else in the universe reflects our value to Him, except Himself.

    Image also means reflection or rendering. Another word for "image" in Biblical context is "likeness."

    We are "like" God in many ways. We can make moral decisions. We can discern good and evil. We can be carriers of His love and compassion and executors of His will according to His character. We obviously cannot "be" God because only God can be God, but we can be "like Him."

    Contrasted against such capacity obviously makes sin, which is conduct in opposition to God's nature, that much more deplorable, and makes evil truly evil. God doesn't define things on a curve nor grade them on a curve. He defines things according to Himself as the standard, and that is how we must learn to see them also, or there cannot be any clear definition of anything.
    Even so, come Lord Jesus!

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    Thanks for replies.

    I wanted to hear an opinon or two on why God only made 2 human beings (according to the bible). God is suppose to be an all knowing super being. Why wouldn't he have created same a population of 20 humans at the beginning instead of two. Did he expect the human race to take off from incestual relationships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLAX12 View Post
    I have another follow up about Adam and Eve. How exactly did the human race expand from these two people. Obviously they have children who had children etc. I mean more along the lines of did God expect the human race to succeed ofo of insestial relations early in the grand "family tree"?
    There was no incest in the beginning. That came into place later when God made it a law to not have incestial relations.

    This seems pretty disgusting to me, why wouldn't God have just made like 20 people so this didn't happen?
    Let me ask you a question. Why is the idea of incestual relations disgusting to you (it's disgusting to me, too, but I know exactly why that is the case)? How do you think that concept became disgusting to people in the first place? Is it not because God at one point declared that it was a sin (which was well after Adam and Eve were created)? If not, then what exactly would make that idea disgusting? Because it's a law not to do that? Where did that law come from originally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLAX12 View Post
    Thanks for replies.

    I wanted to hear an opinon or two on why God only made 2 human beings (according to the bible). God is suppose to be an all knowing super being. Why wouldn't he have created same a population of 20 humans at the beginning instead of two. Did he expect the human race to take off from incestual relationships?
    If God created a population from 20 humans, would you be satisfied? Or would you ask, "If God is an all knowing super powerful being, why couldn't he have just created the population from two people?"

    Humanity from incestual relationships does sound gross, according to how you're presenting and viewing it. But according to God's plan for humanity and salvation, it's a beautiful thing. It's only an unpopular concept modernly, but it used to be how things were. And this was widely accepted.
    "To live is Christ..." - Philippians 1:21

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    Quote Originally Posted by John146 View Post
    There was no incest in the beginning. That came into place later when God made it a law to not have incestial relations.

    Yes there was, if "God" created two people they had kids who in some way produced offsrping with their brothers and sisters or parents, end of story. The only was it would be possible to have no incest is for "God" to have made enough humans form day 1 to ensure no inbreeding occured.

    Let me ask you a question. Why is the idea of incestual relations disgusting to you (it's disgusting to me, too, but I know exactly why that is the case)? How do you think that concept became disgusting to people in the first place? Is it not because God at one point declared that it was a sin (which was well after Adam and Eve were created)? If not, then what exactly would make that idea disgusting? Because it's a law not to do that? Where did that law come from originally?
    Incest is disgusting because the genes passed to offspring are too similar and results in birth defects. Your post confuses me. Why did (according to you) "God" make it a law later on? He either would had to know that he was wrong making him human because "God" can't make errors, or he planned to have the human race start from two people meaning he was lazy and didnt plan accordingly to ensure that incestful relationships (which eh knew was wrong) didnt happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLAX12 View Post
    Incest is disgusting because the genes passed to offspring are too similar and results in birth defects. Your post confuses me. Why did (according to you) "God" make it a law later on? He either would had to know that he was wrong making him human because "God" can't make errors, or he planned to have the human race start from two people meaning he was lazy and didnt plan accordingly to ensure that incestful relationships (which eh knew was wrong) didnt happen.
    Since you are not understanding what I'm saying, let me give you a link to an article written by someone who has a deeper understanding of all this than I do. The article is specifically regarding how Cain found his wife, but also touches on incest and why it was allowed at first but then later was made unlawful. Please read the article and tell me what you think: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c004.html

    If you don't have time to read it all, then please at least scroll down to where the heading says "But What About God's Laws?" (a little less than halfway down the page) and read that section along with the one that follows that is titled "Biological deformities".

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