A Nation Returns.......

[Johnny]

Aliyah Scriptures

God Has Made an Everlasting Covenant with Abraham

Genesis 17:7, 8

"And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."

Psalm 105:8–11

He remembers His covenant forever,
The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations,
The covenant which He made with Abraham,
And His oath to Isaac,
And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute,
To Israel as an everlasting covenant,
Saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan
As the allotment of your inheritance.”

God Has Not Rejected nor Forgotten His Jewish People

Jeremiah 33:23–26 (NIV)

The word of the LORD came to Jeremiah: "Have you not noticed that these people are saying, 'The LORD has rejected the two kingdoms he chose'? So they despise my people and no longer regard them as a nation. This is what the LORD says: 'If I have not established my covenant with day and night and the fixed laws of heaven and earth, then I will reject the descendants of Jacob and David my servant and will not choose one of his sons to rule over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. For I will restore their fortunes and have compassion on them.' "

Romans 11:1, 2, 29 (NIV)

I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means!...God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew...for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.

What God Scatters, He Re–gathers

Jeremiah 31:10

“Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him as a shepherd does his flock.' "

God Will Re–gather and Restore His People to the Land of Israel

Isaiah 43:5, 6

Fear not, for I am with you;
I will bring your descendants from the east,
And gather you from the west;
I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’
And to the south, ‘Do not keep them back!’
Bring My sons from afar,
And My daughters from the ends of the earth.

Jeremiah 23:3, 7, 8
“But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase...“Therefore, behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “that they shall no longer say, ‘As the LORD lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ but, ‘As the LORD lives who brought up and led the descendants of the house of Israel from the north country and from all the countries where I had driven them.’ And they shall dwell in their own land.”

God Will Do This with All His Heart and Soul

Jeremiah 32:37–41

"Behold, I will gather them out of all countries where I have driven them in My anger, in My fury, and in great wrath; I will bring them back to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely. They shall be My people, and I will be their God; then I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me forever, for the good of them and their children after them. And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from doing them good; but I will put My fear in their hearts so that they will not depart from Me. Yes, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will assuredly plant them in this land, with all My heart and with all My soul."

The Gentiles Will Help

Isaiah 49:22 (NIV)

This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “See, I will beckon to the Gentiles, I will lift up My banner to the peoples; they will bring your sons in their arms and carry your daughters on their shoulders."

Praise and Proclamation Will Release Them!

Jeremiah 31:7, 8

For thus says the LORD: "Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations; proclaim, give praise, and say, ‘O LORD, save your people, the remnant of Israel!'

"Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the ends of the earth, among them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and the one who labors with child, together; a great throng shall return there."

In the Land, They Will Receive a New Heart

Ezekiel 36:24–28

“ ‘ “For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people and I will be your God.” ’ ”

None Will Be Left Behind

Ezekiel 39:28 (NIV)

"Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind."

The Messiah Will Come

Jeremiah 23:3, 5, 6

“But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase...Behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “that I will raise to David a Branch of Righteousness; a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell safely; now this is His name by which He will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.”


http://www.operation-exodus.org/israel/html/Praise_Prayer_Proclamation.html
http://www.operation-exodus.org/israel/

[kay-gee]

Sorry. Already happened 2 thousand years ago. His name is Jesus Christ. Through Him all is fulfilled. He made a nation out of people who were strangers to Israel and made them Gods people. A Jew needs to be saved the same way as an American, a German, Irishman, etc...

all the best...

[David Taylor]

All of the verses you listed above were either fulfilled in the return from the Egyptian Captivity, the Assyrian/Babylonian captivity, or in the 1st Advent of Christ.

There is nothing left the people of Israel need; except Jesus Christ.

All pedigrees, land deeds, national flags, and messianic expectations are worthless and useless unless they individually repent and follow the example of Peter and Paul and Stephen, and trust and follow the lowly Carpenter from Nazareth.

All of the promises made in the OT are fulfilled in and through Him; for they all ultimately point to Him as their only hope and only fulfillment.

"Then Jesus said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. " Luke 24:25

Jesus alone is the only hope of each and every Israelite; and each one can partake of Him just as quickly, easily, and simply as Peter did; as Paul did; as Zacchaeus did; as Stephen did; and as many thousands upon thousands of other Israelites have chosen to do so.

To Him be all the power, and glory, and honor. Amen and Amen!

[newinchrist4now]

I see your Avatar says you stand with Isreal. Is not standing with Christ much more important

[kay-gee]

Amen David Taylor. I couldn't have said it better myself if I tried.

all the best...

[genealogist]

Aliyah Scriptures

God Has Made an Everlasting Covenant with Abraham

Genesis 17:7, 8

"And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God."

Psalm 105:8–11

He remembers His covenant forever,
The word which He commanded, for a thousand generations,
The covenant which He made with Abraham,
And His oath to Isaac,
And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute,
To Israel as an everlasting covenant,
Saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan
As the allotment of your inheritance.”

God Has Not Rejected nor Forgotten His Jewish People

Jeremiah 33:23–26 (NIV)

The word of the LORD came to Jeremiah: "Have you not noticed that these people are saying, 'The LORD has rejected the two kingdoms he chose'? So they despise my people and no longer regard them as a nation. This is what the LORD says: 'If I have not established my covenant with day and night and the fixed laws of heaven and earth, then I will reject the descendants of Jacob and David my servant and will not choose one of his sons to rule over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. For I will restore their fortunes and have compassion on them.' "

Romans 11:1, 2, 29 (NIV)

I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means!...God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew...for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.

What God Scatters, He Re–gathers

Jeremiah 31:10

“Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘He who scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him as a shepherd does his flock.' "

God Will Re–gather and Restore His People to the Land of Israel

Isaiah 43:5, 6

Fear not, for I am with you;
I will bring your descendants from the east,
And gather you from the west;
I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’
And to the south, ‘Do not keep them back!’
Bring My sons from afar,
And My daughters from the ends of the earth.

Jeremiah 23:3, 7, 8
“But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase...“Therefore, behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “that they shall no longer say, ‘As the LORD lives who brought up the children of Israel from the land of Egypt,’ but, ‘As the LORD lives who brought up and led the descendants of the house of Israel from the north country and from all the countries where I had driven them.’ And they shall dwell in their own land.”

God Will Do This with All His Heart and Soul

Jeremiah 32:37–41

"Behold, I will gather them out of all countries where I have driven them in My anger, in My fury, and in great wrath; I will bring them back to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely. They shall be My people, and I will be their God; then I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me forever, for the good of them and their children after them. And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from doing them good; but I will put My fear in their hearts so that they will not depart from Me. Yes, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will assuredly plant them in this land, with all My heart and with all My soul."

The Gentiles Will Help

Isaiah 49:22 (NIV)

This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “See, I will beckon to the Gentiles, I will lift up My banner to the peoples; they will bring your sons in their arms and carry your daughters on their shoulders."

Praise and Proclamation Will Release Them!

Jeremiah 31:7, 8

For thus says the LORD: "Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations; proclaim, give praise, and say, ‘O LORD, save your people, the remnant of Israel!'

"Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the ends of the earth, among them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and the one who labors with child, together; a great throng shall return there."

In the Land, They Will Receive a New Heart

Ezekiel 36:24–28

“ ‘ “For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people and I will be your God.” ’ ”

None Will Be Left Behind

Ezekiel 39:28 (NIV)

"Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind."

The Messiah Will Come

Jeremiah 23:3, 5, 6

“But I will gather the remnant of My flock out of all countries where I have driven them, and bring them back to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase...Behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “that I will raise to David a Branch of Righteousness; a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell safely; now this is His name by which He will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.”


http://www.operation-exodus.org/israel/html/Praise_Prayer_Proclamation.html
http://www.operation-exodus.org/israel/

I am with you here! I understand.

However, as a genealogist who studies lineages, may I suggest, not only Judah, but the other 10 tribes will eventually return. Those in Israel now are mainly the Jews (Judah).

[Gillian]

Isreal alway God`s chosen country of blessing who the most hated country will exalted above all counties that used to hate her, by the Lord, in His set up kingdom all nations gentiles will pay homage tritube to her and look to her as universal centre of commerial etc

[thedee]

All of the verses you listed above were either fulfilled in the return from the Egyptian Captivity, the Assyrian/Babylonian captivity, or in the 1st Advent of Christ.

The OP posted Ezekiel 39. Are you trying to say that Ezekiel 38-39 are fulfilled already?

[Johnny]

Of course the Jews need Jesus as much as any person from any heathen nation, but it still does not change the fact that God are returning them to their homeland....Israel. God has an appointment with them in Israel

Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Yes, i stand with Israel and support her while the WHOLE world is turning against her!

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

[David Taylor]

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

• Gen 12:3 is speaking of a promise to the "man" Abraham and not the nation "Israel".
• The blessing of Gen 12:3 was not that the nation "Israel" would descend from Abraham.
• The blessing of Gen 12:3 was that the Savior "Jesus" would descend from Abraham.

Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Luke 1:69 And God hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us; To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant; The oath which he sware to our father Abraham
Galatians 3:15 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

[Johnny]

• Gen 12:3 is speaking of a promise to the "man" Abraham and not the nation "Israel".
• The blessing of Gen 12:3 was not that the nation "Israel" would descend from Abraham.
• The blessing of Gen 12:3 was that the Savior "Jesus" would descend from Abraham.

Matt 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

Luke 1:69 And God hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David; As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us; To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant; The oath which he sware to our father Abraham
Galatians 3:15 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

David, i think the main subject for the thread is the return of the Jewish nation. However, here is Barnes (E-Sword) commentary on Genesis 12:2-3

Gen_12:2-3
The promise corresponds to the command. If he is to lose much by his exile, he will also gain in the end. The promise contains a lower and higher blessing. The lower blessing has three parts: “First, I will make of thee a great nation.” This will compensate for the loss of his country. The nation to which he had hitherto belonged was fast sinking into polytheism and idolatry. To escape from it and its defiling influence was itself a benefit; but to be made himself the head of a chosen nation was a double blessing. Secondly, “And bless thee.” The place of his birth and kindred was the scene of all his past earthly joys. But the Lord will make up the loss to him in a purer and safer scene of temporal prosperity. Thirdly, “And make thy name great.” This was to compensate him for his father’s house. He was to be the patriarch of a new house, on account of which he would be known and venerated all over the world.
The higher blessing is expressed in these remarkable terms: “And be thou a blessing.” He is to be not merely a subject of blessing, but a medium of blessing to others. It is more blessed to give than to receive. And the Lord here confers on Abram the delightful prerogative of dispensing good to others. The next verse expands this higher element of the divine promise. “I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee.” Here the Lord identifies the cause of Abram with his own, and declares him to be essentially connected with the weal or woe of all who come into contact with him. “And blessed in thee shall be all the families of the ground.” The ground was cursed for the sake of Adam, who fell by transgression. But now shall the ground again participate in the blessing. “In thee.” In Abram is this blessing laid up as a treasure hid in a field to be realized in due time. “All the families” of mankind shall ultimately enter into the enjoyment of this unbounded blessing.
Thus, when the Lord saw fit to select a man to preserve vital piety on the earth and be the head of a race suited to be the depository of a revelation of mercy, he at the same time designed that this step should be the means of effectually recalling the sin-enthralled world to the knowledge and love of himself. The race was twice already since the fall put upon its probation - once under the promise of victory to the seed of the woman, and again under the covenant with Noah. In each of these cases, notwithstanding the growing light of revelation and accumulating evidence of the divine forbearance, the race had apostatised from the God of mercy, with lamentably few known exceptions. Yet, undeterred by the gathering tokens of this second apostasy, and after reiterated practical demonstration to all people of the debasing, demoralizing effect of sin, the Lord, with calm determination of purpose, sets about another step in the great process of removing the curse of sin, dispensing the blessing of pardon, and eventually drawing all the nations to accept of his mercy. The special call of Abram contemplates the calling of the Gentiles as its final issue, and is therefore to be regarded as one link in a series of wonderful events by which the legal obstacles to the divine mercy are to be taken out of the way, and the Spirit of the Lord is to prevail with still more and more of men to return to God.
It is sometimes inadvertently said that the Old Testament is narrow and exclusive, while the New Testament is broad and catholic in its spirit. This is a mistake. The Old and New Testaments are of one mind on this matter. Many are called, and few chosen. This is the common doctrine of the New as well as of the Old. They are both equally catholic in proclaiming the gospel to all. The covenant with Adam and with Noah is still valid and sure to all who return to God; and the call of Abram is expressly said to be a means of extending blessing to all the families of man. The New Testament does not aim at anything more than this; it merely hails the approaching accomplishment of the same gracious end. They both concur also in limiting salvation to the few who repent and believe the gospel. Even when Abram was called there were a few who still trusted in the God of mercy. According to the chronology of the Masoretic text, Heber was still alive, Melkizedec was contemporary with Abram, Job was probably later, and many other now unknown witnesses for God were doubtless to be found, down to the time of the exodus, outside the chosen family. God marks the first symptoms of decaying piety. He does not wait until it has died out before he calls Abram. He proceeds in a leisurely, deliberate manner with his eternal purpose of mercy, and hence, a single heir of promise suffices for three generations, until the set time comes for the chosen family and the chosen nation. Universalism, then, in the sense of the offer of mercy to man, is the rule of the Old and the New Testament. Particularism in the acceptance of it is the accident of the time. The call of Abram is a special expedient for providing a salvation that may be offered to all the families of the earth.
In all God’s teachings the near and the sensible come before the far and the conceivable, the present and the earthly before the eternal and the heavenly. Thus, Abram’s immediate acts of self-denial are leaving his country, his birthplace, his home. The promise to him is to be made a great nation, be blessed, and have a great name in the new land which the Lord would show him. This is unspeakably enhanced by his being made a blessing to all nations. God pursues this mode of teaching for several important reasons. First, the sensible and the present are intelligible to those who are taught. The Great Teacher begins with the known, and leads the mind forward to the unknown. If he had begun with things too high, too deep, or too far for the range of Abram’s mental vision, he would not have come into relation with Abram’s mind. It is superfluous to say that he might have enlarged Abram’s view in proportion to the grandeur of the conceptions to be revealed.
On the same principle he might have made Abram cognizant of all present and all developed truth. On the same principle he might have developed all things in an instant of time, and so have had done with creation and providence at once. Secondly, the present and the sensible are the types of the future and the conceivable; the land is the type of the better land; the nation of the spiritual nation; the temporal blessing of the eternal blessing; the earthly greatness of the name of the heavenly. And let us not suppose that we are arrived at the end of all knowledge. We pique ourselves on our advance in spiritual knowledge beyond the age of Abram. But even we may be in the very infancy of mental development. There may be a land, a nation, a blessing, a great name, of which our present realizations or conceptions are but the types. Any other supposition would be a large abatement from the sweetness of hope’s overflowing cup.
Thirdly, these things which God now promises are the immediate form of his bounty, the very gifts he begins at the moment to bestow. God has his gift to Abram ready in his hand in a tangible form. He points to it and says, This is what thou presently needest; this I give thee, with my blessing and favor. But, fourthly, these are the earnest and the germ of all temporal and eternal blessing. Man is a growing thing, whether as an individual or a race. God graduates his benefits according to the condition and capacity of the recipients. In the first boon of his good-will is the earnest of what he will continue to bestow on those who continue to walk in his ways. And as the present is the womb of the future, so is the external the symbol of the internal, the material the shadow of the spiritual, in the order of the divine blessing. And as events unfold themselves in the history of man and conceptions in his soul within, so are doctrines gradually opened up in the Word of God, and progressively revealed to the soul by the Spirit of God.

[Amos_with_goats]

I wonder what significance any might find in the return of the establishment of the state of Israel?

For those who see no prophetic significance, do you find ANY significance? Do you see this as a 'red herring'? Is it a ploy of the Deceiver to throw people off somehow?

[Johnny]

Amos, to me it is definitely prophetic.

[Amos_with_goats]

Amos, to me it is definitely prophetic.

Thanks Johnny, I get that impression from your posts.

I might have asked; "I wonder what significance any might find in the return of the establishment of the state of Israel who do not see it as an event in prophetic fufullment?

[Johnny]

Thanks Johnny, I get that impression from your posts.

I might have asked; "I wonder what significance any might find in the return of the establishment of the state of Israel who do not see it as an event in prophetic fufullment?

I find the majority of people are in denial that Israel became a nation on 14 May 1948. They don't recognize Israel or that the land of Israel belongs to the Jewish nation. I have been fortunate to be there 4 times already and everytime i go there i can see how God's promise are just coming in fulfilment day by day. If you look at some photo's of Jewish holocaust survivors that are only flesh and bone and see Israel and the Jewish nation today after 62 years.....it is NOTHING short of a MIRACLE! The "dry bones" have come to life! I can remember one of the generals from Britain visiting one of the death camps after the war ended saying: "It is like the dead are walking"