400 point surge in stock market before open is sure sign of economic failure to come.

**Creator** · May 10th 2010, 12:53 PM

Are you aware that Obama's Federal Reserve has just backed the loans of the failing European nations to the tune of 1 trillion $.

That's right , your tax dollars are now being spent to support failing Socialist nations like Greece simply to make sure the Euro and the European Union do not fail.

Isn't this a failed policy designed by Satan to inevitably tie the US into the inevitable failure of the EU.

Isn't it obvious the debt of Socialism is being supported by Obama policy and now thanks to YOUR geneosity of assuming THEIR debt with American tax dollars America will be tied to the inevitable collapse of the EU.....

Don't be fooled by the stock market rise today, it is simply Satan's way of cheering the blind folks into believing that the markets are now "safe" because America has printed another trillion dollars of fake money to make people feel good about investing in the stock market again. Not buying it.
Isn't Satan manipulating these markets?

God is not allowing me to participate in the stock market "irrational exhuberance". How about you.?
I prayed for Europe last night for their salvation and to return to Jesus...maybe a economic collapse is necessary.

But, Isn't that collapse necessary for the anti-Christ to arise....I think so.

Creator

**HisLeast** · May 10th 2010, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Creator

Are you aware that Obama's Federal Reserve

Lets just stop right there. The Federal Reserve is not "Obama's".

Originally Posted by Creator

Don't be fooled by the stock market rise today, it is simply Satan's way of cheering the blind folks into believing that the markets are now "safe" because America has printed another trillion dollars of fake money to make people feel good about investing in the stock market again. Not buying it.
Isn't Satan manipulating these markets?

Are you serious? Are all dynamics beyond your understanding "Satan's manipulation"?

Originally Posted by Creator

God is not allowing me to participate in the stock market "irrational exhuberance". How about you.?
I prayed for Europe last night for their salvation and to return to Jesus...maybe a economic collapse is necessary.

But, Isn't that collapse necessary for the anti-Christ to arise....I think so.

400 point start to the day is hardly "irrational exhuberance". It might do well to understand what the term "rational" means in the economic sense. "Rational" only means that people don't make self contradictory decisions. A "rational" person is someone who likes A > B > C and who therefore can not like C > A. Every decision that is happening in the markets right now is rational, whether or not you support or understand it.

The daily adjustment of exchatology to match the DOW performance is DESTROYING OUR CREDIBILITY.

***RabbiKnife*** · May 10th 2010, 01:39 PM

Economic common sense dictates that I am out of the market today.

"I saw Goody Proctor with the Devil."

**Creator** · May 10th 2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by RabbiKnife

Economic common sense dictates that I am out of the market today.

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Very wise decision, Rabbiknife;
..the fact that the market reflects the WORLD's wisdom (like today's market support of massive debt bailout of European Union) is making it increasingly obvious to those who follow Christ closely that failure is inevitable....and to avoid such risks...

Participation in such flagrant misuse of American tax dollars by US governmental interests is sure to bring failure....
It apppears to me that those who try to claim there is no relation to Satan's attempted dominion over the world system are REALLY the ones who have let there desire to participate in the world system override their faithfulness to Christ, they and are also the ones who will suffer the most from neglect of Christ's command to beware of where you store your treasures.
I did it for many years.

Many simpletons have just lost more than half of their wealth (in 2008) and retirement savings from believing the lie that Satan is NOT involved in the economic affair of men ....

Let us remain vigilant to Satan's willingness and abiliy to steal from those who are UNAWARE of his tactics and let us acknoweldge he is the STILL the thief....whom Jesus said came to deceive and to steal and to destroy.

Creator

**HisLeast** · May 10th 2010, 02:37 PM

Exactly what does God have authority over these days?

Market goes up: "Satan is at work!"
Market goes down: "Satan is at work!"

***Firefighter*** · May 10th 2010, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Creator

It apppears to me that those who try to claim there is no relation to Satan's attempted dominion over the world system are REALLY the ones who have let there desire to participate in the world system override their faithfulness to Christ, they and are also the ones who will suffer the most from neglect of Christ's command to beware of where you store your treasures.

Let's see if I have this straight... Anyone who does not agree with your assessment concerning the current market have sold out their faithfulness to Christ to participate in the "world system" and will suffer dearly for it? Did I miss anything?

**HisLeast** · May 10th 2010, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Creator

Participation in such flagrant misuse of American tax dollars by US governmental interests is sure to bring failure....

Uhh... how are the DOW futures a "use" of American tax dollars at all?

***RabbiKnife*** · May 10th 2010, 02:47 PM

Oh, I don't know.

I've made a lot of money since 2008 participating the the market...Still not a good reason to be in the market today. However, as soon as we get a pull back, it will be BUY BUY BUY.

The market is not about supporting the EU....it's about the value of the underlying companies. Investing in good, solid, profit-making companies is something that Jesus was very approving of.

**Creator** · May 10th 2010, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by HisLeast

Uhh... how are the DOW futures a "use" of American tax dollars at all?

You misunderstood.
It is the governmental interests and agencies that are flagrantly misusing American tax Dollars ...which makes it very risky to remain in the equities markets while they are illegally underwriting Socialist debt ridden economies....yes, with Obama's approval.

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**HisLeast** · May 10th 2010, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Creator

You misunderstood.
It is the governmental interests and agencies that are flagrantly misusing American tax Dollars ...which makes it very risky to remain in the equities markets while they are illegally underwriting Socialist debt ridden economies....yes, with Obama's approval.

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But the 400 point gain was in futures, not equities.

***Cyberseeker*** · May 10th 2010, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Urban Missionary

Let's see if I have this straight... Anyone who does not agree with your assessment concerning the current market have sold out their faithfulness to Christ to participate in the "world system" and will suffer dearly for it? Did I miss anything?

Admit it Urb. You love Endtimes forum.

***Firefighter*** · May 10th 2010, 05:42 PM

You know me so well...

***Cyberseeker*** · May 10th 2010, 06:12 PM

Hey um, here is a bit more bad news ...

Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: (Daniel 11:20)

You fellas are gonna have to keep Obama as long as you can coz the next one wants to pay it all back.

***RabbiKnife*** · May 10th 2010, 06:30 PM

Which one of the 45 previous President's did not raise taxes on somebody?

Again, when our theology is dictated by our reading of the Washington Post we have a problem. If I read your post correctly, you believe that the next leader after President Obama is "the" Antichrist?

**notuptome** · May 10th 2010, 07:07 PM

I always love it when someone is so dogmatic about future events. I predict the stock market will go down. I also predict that the stock market will go up. I also predict that the stock market will do it all over again and again and again.

For the cause of Christ
Roger