Penal Substitutionary Atonement

[Nomad]

The idea of a legal transaction between God and man is an idea that came from the reformers. They basically changed the satisfaction model of the atonement into what is today the Penal model of the atonement. I believe much of the Penal model of the atonement is incorrect at best and at worst not Biblical.

I believe this charge needs to be fleshed out so I started a new thread for that purpose. What exactly about the PSA model is incorrect and not Biblical?

[markedward]

Covenantal: Making a covenant relationship.
Matthew 26.26-28; 1 Corinthians 11.23-25; Galatians 3.17; Hebrews 8.8-13, 9.15-22, 12.24

Expiation: Being made clean.
Romans 4.7; 1 John 1.9

Forgiveness: Sins are pardoned.
Matthew 9.6; Ephesians 1.7; James 5.15; 1 John 1.9

Propitiation: Being made favorable.
Romans 3.25; 1 John 2.2, 4.10

Ransom: Purchasing for freedom.
Mark 10.45; 1 Timothy 2.5-6; Revelation 5.9-10

Reconciliation: Brought into harmony.
Romans 5.10-11; Ephesians 2.16; Hebrews 2.17

Redemption: Redeemed from the Law.
Romans 3.24; Galatians 3.13; Colossians 1.14

Sacrifice: An offering.
Ephesians 5.2; Hebrews 9.14, 10.1-14

Penal-Substitution: Taking the place of.
Romans 8.3-4,32; 2 Corinthians 5.21; Galatians 3.13

[dan]

I believe this charge needs to be fleshed out so I started a new thread for that purpose. What exactly about the PSA model is incorrect and not Biblical?

...Include the death penalty for murder, it is not Biblical, IMO.

Even if the perpetrator is sincerely repentant.

REV 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear:
REV 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.