What about bible contradictions ..???? (moved back to Christian Answers)
Hey what do we when we come across bible contradictions ? If the bible is the word of God why the contradictions??? Here are a few: Did Jesus baptize anyone?john 3:22(yes)and john 4:2(no)will God curse the earth again mal 4:6(yes)gen 8:21(no)is salvation by faith alone Mark 16:16,john 3:18,36,Acts 16:30,31(yes) psalm 62:12,proverbs 10:16,jer 17:10(no)etc..... These are a few examples...Thanks
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He promises never to destroy the earth again.will God curse the earth again mal 4:6(yes)gen 8:21(no)
I don't know this one.Did Jesus baptize anyone?john 3:22(yes)and john 4:2(no)
Salvation is by faith. The other scriptures you cite all must be read in context of the New Testament and especially the words of Jesus himself. There is a problem here that is being presented by the authors of the websites you look at when there is really no problem in real life.is salvation by faith alone Mark 16:16,john 3:18,36,Acts 16:30,31(yes) psalm 62:12,proverbs 10:16,jer 17:10(no)etc.....
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John 3: 22 After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized.Originally Posted by Abram
John 4:1-2: The Pharisees heard that Jesus was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John, although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples.
Where's the contradiction? Obviously the disciples were baptizing under Jesus' direction.
As to the Old Testament vs the New Testament on salvation, read Hebrews.
Contradiction:::who was Achan's father?(jos & 7:1)Carmi-or(josh 7:24,22:20)Zerah, How did David kill Goliath?(1sam.17:49-51)with sling? or (1sam.17:51) sword? - who owns the earth? God,satan,or man-(Gen 14:19,22,Ex 9:29,19:5,Deut 10:14,Ps 24:1,etc...)God? or (Matt. 4:8,9,Lk 4:5,6,etc...)satan?(Ps 115:16 etc...)or man????....
...and you shall live...
Abram, are you looking to understand the things that appear to be contradictions or simply quote things someone else has said with an "Aha!" outlook?
The reason I ask is that the "contradiction" you've quoted from 1Sam 17:49-51 looks like the kind of thing you might find on a web site rather than the result of reading it for yourself. Looking at the text:
1Sa 17:49-51 NKJV Then David put his hand in his bag and took out a stone; and he slung it and struck the Philistine in his forehead, so that the stone sank into his forehead, and he fell on his face to the earth. (50) So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and struck the Philistine and killed him. But there was no sword in the hand of David. (51) Therefore David ran and stood over the Philistine, took his sword and drew it out of its sheath and killed him, and cut off his head with it. And when the Philistines saw that their champion was dead, they fled.
We can see that David took a stone, slung the stone and felled Goliath (v49). David didn't have a sword of his own (v50) so he took Goliath's sword and cut off Goliath's head with it (v51) After the stone hit Goliath and he fell (on his face) to the ground it would be reasonable to assume he was dead but after he had had his head cut off there was no question.
If you want to dig a little deeper, the word translated "killed" in v49 and 51 is the Hebrew word מוּת which is used to refer to dying or killing in either a literal or figurative sense. So if Goliath took a stone full force in the head and collapsed to the ground, stunned but not necessarily dead (presumably David didn't stop to check his pulse along the way) and then David cut his head off with his own sword everything falls neatly into place.
1Jn 4:1 NKJV Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1Th 5:21-22 NKJV Test all things; hold fast what is good. (22) Abstain from every form of evil.
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This has been moved from Christian Answers to Growing in Christ because the Original Poster's status set to "Yes, I'm a Christian."
Carry on.
Even so, come Lord Jesus!
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Dude. Whether it was the stone or the sudden separation from his head, the fact remains that David killed Goliath. If I jump off a cliff, is it the fall or the sudden contact with the ground that kills me? Does it really matter except to a critic or a forensic scientist?
Who owns it? God.- who owns the earth? God,satan,or man-(Gen 14:19,22,Ex 9:29,19:5,Deut 10:14,Ps 24:1,etc...)God? or (Matt. 4:8,9,Lk 4:5,6,etc...)satan?(Ps 115:16 etc...)or man????....
Who has dominion? Man.
Who prows it's seeking to devour? Satan.
To what purpose are you asking about "controdictions"...and are you finding them or are you getting the info from someone trying to convince you that their religion is true and Christianity is not?
The FACTS remain guys that even you dont know why their ARE contradictions... you can try to use smooth words to people who have no sense in questioning what they believe ie.. blind faith..I have faith in God and believe He reveals Himself in The Scriptures...However, I also Believe that man has corrupted those Scriptures ie... the bible...God is Perfect..If their is one mistake in the bible it cant be of God..only humans make mistakes...Therefore I dont have to be a rocket scientist to see many holes in the teachings of the bible... If you look into christianity and actually study it, you will see that its based on mythology...History proves this..from the god man to mary mother of christ ( Isis and the child 1800 bc) ..Its all stems from pagan religions..their just to much evidence to the contrary...I never thought I would ever disbelieve in the triune god,,,but my God is One not divided in parts..God is not man, nor can He die..He is Creator not created...Be well.
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The FACTS remain that the Bible is inerrant in it's original autographs. You are nitpicking the types of "proof texts" atheists used to try to disprove the Bible. But, with proper examination, those so called contridictions don't hold water. If you really truly want to know the answer to your question, read "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" by Josh McDowell. Then, after you have read that, come back and ask me questions. Or, as you read it, come here and ask questions. I'd be happy to go through it with you. But, I'm not going to do your work for you. You have someone messing with your head about your faith to convince you of their "truth" and you need to decide for yourself.
Romans 12
So which Scriptures do you use?
Hell....the nightmare you can't wake up from.
Sin is like electricity, it takes the path of least resistance. (the shortest path to ground).
Jesus said He is “The Way”, not “A” way. Jesus said He is “the Truth”, not “A” truth. Jesus said He is “The Life”, not “A” life. No man comes to the Father but by Me. Are we serving a man or are we serving God?
...and you shall live...
Hang on a minute, before you say that we don't know why there are contradictions look at whether there are contradictions. Don't just look at the text at face value and avoid thinking any deeper than that. Sometimes you need to take some time to understand what the text says rather than simply looking at it at face value hunting for things that don't look quite right.
In the case of the 1 Samuel text you quoted I don't see that's a contradiction at all, it's just somebody who read the text with no intention of understanding it in the first place.
1Jn 4:1 NKJV Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1Th 5:21-22 NKJV Test all things; hold fast what is good. (22) Abstain from every form of evil.
Again, just answer this one question who is Achan's father...very simple ..just answer this one problem verse..josh 7:1,7:24, and 22:20..Please keep it simple...and also where is the Original bible ie..Autographs...It dont exist. The Muslims have Their Original Koran.And please you also use PROOF TExTing like the atheist..give me a break...Answer the question .....Achans father...???Please dont blame me if you have a answer.
Worship Warrior
Jos 7:1 But the children of Israel committed a trespass in the accursed thing: for Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against the children of Israel.
Jos 7:24 And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them unto the valley of Achor.
IF you took the time to realize that to the Israelites of the time, those verses do not controdict rather than fall for lies of others you would not be so confused. Achan was of the line of Zerah so was the son of... just was the Jews are of the line of Abraham and thus the sons of Abraham....
Romans 12
Joshua 7:18 And he brought his household man by man; and Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, was taken.
Does that answer your question?
Hell....the nightmare you can't wake up from.
Sin is like electricity, it takes the path of least resistance. (the shortest path to ground).
Jesus said He is “The Way”, not “A” way. Jesus said He is “the Truth”, not “A” truth. Jesus said He is “The Life”, not “A” life. No man comes to the Father but by Me. Are we serving a man or are we serving God?
...and you shall live...
In Jos 7:24 the word translated "son" is בּן , which is used to mean "a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc". In other words it means "descendant" rather than necessarily son in the sense we currently use the word.
So, once again, the contradiction only exists if you're not interested in understanding what the text really says.
1Jn 4:1 NKJV Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1Th 5:21-22 NKJV Test all things; hold fast what is good. (22) Abstain from every form of evil.
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