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    Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    Hello loved ones,
    I have been reading in J.C. Ryle, a preacher from England.. and he seriously.. and I mean seriously, hits everything on the nail for me. He puts into words exactly what I'm thinking just not knowing how to word it. I read a really good quote that he said.. and wanted to share the wisdom.

    What does it cost to be a true Christian? Number One “It will cost him his self-righteousness. He must cast away all pride and high thoughts, and conceit of his own goodness. He must be content to go to heaven as a poor sinner saved only by free grace, and owing all to the merit and righteousness of another. He must be willing to give up all trust in his own morality, respectability, praying, Bible-reading, Church-going, and sacrament-receiving, and trust in nothing but Jesus Christ. Let us set down this item first and foremost in our account. To be a true Christian it will cost a man his self-righteousness.”


    What does it cost to be a true Christian? Number Two “It will cost a man his sins. He must be willing to give up every habit and practice which is wrong in God’s sight. He must set his face against it, quarrel with it, break off from it, fight with it, crucify it, and labor to keep it under, whatever the world around him may say or think. He must do this honestly and fairly. There must be no separate truce with any special sin which he loves. He must count all sins as his deadly enemies, and hate every false way. Whether little or great, whether open or secret, all his sins must be thoroughly renounced. Let us set down that item second in our account. To be a Christian it will cost a man his sins.”
    ~ J.C. Ryle

    What does it cost to be a true Christian?Number Three “It will cost a man his love of ease. He must take pains and trouble, if he means to run a successful face towards heaven. He must daily watch and stand his guard, like a soldier on enemy’s ground. He must take heed to his behavior every hour of the day, in every company, and in every place, in public as well as in private, among strangers as well as at home. He must be careful over his time, his tongue, his temper, his thoughts, his imaginations, his motives, his conduct in every relation of life. He must be diligent about his prayers, his Bible-reading, and his use of Sundays, with all their means of grace.
    “This also sounds hard. There is nothing we naturally dislike so much as ‘trouble’ about our religion. We hate trouble. We secretly wish we could have a ‘vicarious’ Christianity, and could be good by proxy, and have everything done for us. Anything that requires exertion and labor is entirely against the grain of our hearts. But the soul can have ‘no gains without pains.’ Let us set down that item third in our account. To be a Christian it will cost a man his love of ease.”







    What does it cost to be a true Christian? Number Four

    “It will cost a man the favor of the world. He must be content to be thought ill of by man if he pleases God. He must count it no strange thing to be mocked, ridiculed, slandered, persecuted, and even hated. He must not be surprised to find his opinions and practices in religion despised and held up to scorn. He must submit to be thought by many a fool, an enthusiast, and a fanatic – to have his words perverted and his actions misrepresented. In fact, he must not marvel if some call him mad.
    “I dare say this also sounds hard. We naturally dislike unjust dealing and false charges, and think it very hard to be accused without cause. We should not be flesh and blood if we did not wish to have the good opinion of our neighbors. It is always unpleasant to be spoken against, and forsaken, and lied about, and to stand alone. But there is no help for it. The cup which our Master drank must be drunk by His disciples. They must be ‘despised and rejected of men’ (Isaiah 53:3). Let us set down that item last in our account. To be a Christian it will cost a man the favor of the world.”
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    Those are four really good points BUT I would have put them under "What does it cost to be a true disciple of Christ? "
    I believe true Christians are quite a variety, some weak some strong some vibrant and some ho hum. What makes a true Christian is that their sins have been washed in the Lambs Blood. Your points make great marks of a true disciple. IMHO
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    You are right! I was actually thinking the same thing as you, but just copied his whole article. Thank you
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    Re: Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    Try this true story.........

    You can view the page at http://bibleforums.org/content.php?29-Bobbys-Story
    My favorite scripture: Malachi 3:16

    "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name!" (Every time we speak of the Lord, or even THINK of him--its written down in a book of remembrance!)

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    Re: Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by crossnote View Post
    Those are four really good points BUT I would have put them under "What does it cost to be a true disciple of Christ? "
    I believe true Christians are quite a variety, some weak some strong some vibrant and some ho hum. What makes a true Christian is that their sins have been washed in the Lambs Blood. Your points make great marks of a true disciple. IMHO
    I think you are bang on. I read the first post and thought exactly the same. A great post nonetheless.

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    Wow! I remember writing this. Thanks for bringing back this post. It is great to be reminded of things.
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    If I fully pay all these costs, to forsake all my self-righteousness, forsake all my sin, forsake all my ease and the favour of the world, and yet not have love, I profit nothing.

    1Ti 1:5 Now the goal of the commandment is love out of a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,

    And I agree with crossnote, it is about true discipleship of the Christian.

    A Christian: He who has the Son has life.
    A none Christian: He who does not have the Son, does not have life.

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    Re: Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    There is only one cost: Everything.

    As it should be. Forget the death-filled man-made fallen junk. Gimme the resurrected life!
    Even so, come Lord Jesus!

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    Re: Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani H View Post
    There is only one cost: Everything.

    As it should be. Forget the death-filled man-made fallen junk. Gimme the resurrected life!
    Amen to that!!!!!
    My soul does GLORIFY the LORD, my spirit REJOICES in GOD MY SAVIOUR
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    Re: Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani H View Post
    There is only one cost: Everything.

    As it should be. Forget the death-filled man-made fallen junk. Gimme the resurrected life!
    Hi Danni!
    Not sure what you mean by that last line, but there is no resurrection life without there first being death.

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    Re: Four Costs of becoming a Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by lovex View Post
    Hello loved ones,
    I have been reading in J.C. Ryle, a preacher from England.. and he seriously.. and I mean seriously, hits everything on the nail for me. He puts into words exactly what I'm thinking just not knowing how to word it. I read a really good quote that he said.. and wanted to share the wisdom.

    What does it cost to be a true Christian? Number One “It will cost him his self-righteousness. He must cast away all pride and high thoughts, and conceit of his own goodness. He must be content to go to heaven as a poor sinner saved only by free grace, and owing all to the merit and righteousness of another. He must be willing to give up all trust in his own morality, respectability, praying, Bible-reading, Church-going, and sacrament-receiving, and trust in nothing but Jesus Christ. Let us set down this item first and foremost in our account. To be a true Christian it will cost a man his self-righteousness.”


    What does it cost to be a true Christian? Number Two “It will cost a man his sins. He must be willing to give up every habit and practice which is wrong in God’s sight. He must set his face against it, quarrel with it, break off from it, fight with it, crucify it, and labor to keep it under, whatever the world around him may say or think. He must do this honestly and fairly. There must be no separate truce with any special sin which he loves. He must count all sins as his deadly enemies, and hate every false way. Whether little or great, whether open or secret, all his sins must be thoroughly renounced. Let us set down that item second in our account. To be a Christian it will cost a man his sins.”
    ~ J.C. Ryle

    What does it cost to be a true Christian?Number Three “It will cost a man his love of ease. He must take pains and trouble, if he means to run a successful face towards heaven. He must daily watch and stand his guard, like a soldier on enemy’s ground. He must take heed to his behavior every hour of the day, in every company, and in every place, in public as well as in private, among strangers as well as at home. He must be careful over his time, his tongue, his temper, his thoughts, his imaginations, his motives, his conduct in every relation of life. He must be diligent about his prayers, his Bible-reading, and his use of Sundays, with all their means of grace.
    “This also sounds hard. There is nothing we naturally dislike so much as ‘trouble’ about our religion. We hate trouble. We secretly wish we could have a ‘vicarious’ Christianity, and could be good by proxy, and have everything done for us. Anything that requires exertion and labor is entirely against the grain of our hearts. But the soul can have ‘no gains without pains.’ Let us set down that item third in our account. To be a Christian it will cost a man his love of ease.”







    What does it cost to be a true Christian? Number Four

    “It will cost a man the favor of the world. He must be content to be thought ill of by man if he pleases God. He must count it no strange thing to be mocked, ridiculed, slandered, persecuted, and even hated. He must not be surprised to find his opinions and practices in religion despised and held up to scorn. He must submit to be thought by many a fool, an enthusiast, and a fanatic – to have his words perverted and his actions misrepresented. In fact, he must not marvel if some call him mad.
    “I dare say this also sounds hard. We naturally dislike unjust dealing and false charges, and think it very hard to be accused without cause. We should not be flesh and blood if we did not wish to have the good opinion of our neighbors. It is always unpleasant to be spoken against, and forsaken, and lied about, and to stand alone. But there is no help for it. The cup which our Master drank must be drunk by His disciples. They must be ‘despised and rejected of men’ (Isaiah 53:3). Let us set down that item last in our account. To be a Christian it will cost a man the favor of the world.”
    Lovex, I like this.

    I like that, unlike the truism that it will cost us everything to take up our cross and follow Jesus, you are listing specific things we have to put down, if we are to follow Christ. i am reminded of the rich young ruler, who had to put down his great wealth. It seems that for each of us there are glaring things that need to go, and more subtle things, of course.

    self-righteousness
    sin
    ease of life
    favor of the world

    Tell me, are we to give up our sins and bridle our tongue, before we can become born again, regenerate and Spirit-indwelt, or is that what we do afterwards? If before, is that a condition of salvation? If after, is that a condition of keeping our salvation? If after, and we fail to let go of the sin and don't act vigilant, what is the consequence?

    I'm ever so curious.
    His and Yours,

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