Grand Master
The book I am reading says that untrustworthy traditions present:
Andrew preaching in Scythia
Thomas in Parthia, then later India
Mark as the founder of the church in Alexandria
James the brother of John preached in Spain
Simon the Zelotes, Joseph of Arimathea, and Paul laboured in Britain.
Does anyone know what happened to the Apostles of Christ?
Good bye.
I take it the book you're reading as no Biblical basis?Originally Posted by chad
Acts 12.1-2: About that time Herod the king laid violent hands on some who belonged to the church. He killed James the brother of John with the sword.
This was when most of the Apostles had not yet left Jerusalem for missionary travel work.
Regarding Paul, most of the earliest Christian writers claim that he successfully went to Spain (as he had planned to: Romans 15.24,28), before returning to Rome where he was martyred. No one gives much room for him to have gone to Britain.
Former member
That woud have been in about the year 44.
Tradition says that ten apostles were martyred, with John living to old age (on Patmos part of the time).
Several early writers suggest that Mark was a missionary in Egypt.
Posting Freak
Is there any record of where Matthew preached?
Senior Member
does anyone know how they died?
Formerly moonglow
Did Britain exist then?
Tiffany Faith
does anyone know how they died?
Does the Bible record the death of the apostles? How did each of the apostles die?
Answer: The only apostle whose death the Bible records is James (Acts 12:2). King Herod had James “put to death with the sword,” likely a reference to beheading. The circumstances of the deaths of the other apostles are related through church tradition, so we should not put too much weight on any of the other accounts. The most commonly accepted church tradition in regard to the death of an apostle is that the apostle Peter was crucified upside-down on an x-shaped cross in Rome in fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy (John 21:18). The following are the most popular “traditions” concerning the deaths of the other apostles:
Matthew suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia, killed by a sword wound. John faced martyrdom when he was boiled in a huge basin of boiling oil during a wave of persecution in Rome. However, he was miraculously delivered from death. John was then sentenced to the mines on the prison island of Patmos. He wrote his prophetic book of Revelation on Patmos. The apostle John was later freed and returned to what is now modern-day Turkey. He died as an old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.
James, the brother of Jesus (not officially an apostle), was the leader of the church in Jerusalem. He was thrown from the southeast pinnacle of the temple (over a hundred feet down) when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a club. This is thought to be the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the temptation.
Bartholomew, also known as Nathanael, was a missionary to Asia. He witnessed in present-day Turkey and was martyred for his preaching in Armenia, being flayed to death by a whip. Andrew was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Greece. After being whipped severely by seven soldiers, they tied his body to the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these words: “I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it.” He continued to preach to his tormentors for two days until he died. The apostle Thomas was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to establish the church there. Matthias, the apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned and then beheaded. The apostle Paul was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero in Rome in A.D. 67. There are traditions regarding the other apostles as well, but none with any reliable historical or traditional support.
It is not so important how the apostles died. What is important is the fact that they were all willing to die for their faith. If Jesus had not been resurrected, the disciples would have known it. People will not die for something they know to be a lie. The fact that all of the apostles were willing to die horrible deaths, refusing to renounce their faith in Christ, is tremendous evidence that they had truly witnessed the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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"People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson
Grand Master
After doing a bit of research last night, this is what I have found.
Peter - Crucified in 64/65 during the Neronian persecution in Rome..
Andrew - Condemned to die on the cross by the governor (helladarchen) Aegeates.
Mathew - Martyred. Killed by a spear. In art, is depicted with a spear, the instrument of his death.
Thomas - died of stab wounds on July 3, A.D. 72. It was reported that several Brahman priests found
St Thomas praying in a cave near his home and wounded him with a spear.
Philip - Martyred. Died by crucifixion in Phrygia; May 3 (Roman Rite), Nov. 14 (Byzantine Rite).
Bartholomew - martyred by being flayed and beheaded; in art, is depicted holding a knife, an instrument of
his death; Aug. 24 (Roman Rite), Aug. 25 (Byzantine Rite.)
John - lived in Ephesus and died a natural death in approx 100.
James - died by the sword in 44 during the rule of Herod Agrippa.
Simon - Suffered martyrdom by being sawed in two in the middle east. In art, is depicted with a saw,
the instrument of his death, Oct. 28 (Roman Rite). May 10 (Byzantine Rite).Martyred - sawn
in two in the middle east.
Jude - St Jude was martyred; in art, is depicted with a halberd, the instrument of his death; Oct 28
(Roman Rite), June 19th (Byzantine Rite).
James - St James the less was stoned to death in 62 or thrown from the top of the temple in
Jerusalem and clubbed to death in 66; in art, is depicted with a club or heavy staff; May 3
(Roman Rite), Oct 9 (Byzantine Rite).
Judas - Killed himself, because he betrayed Jesus.
Senior Member
Is this why some Christians don't like the peace symbol? Because they think it is an upside down and broken cross that one of the apostles was crucified on?
Grand Master
The book that I am reading is called the history of the Christian Church. I think he takes the information from the writings of the early church fathers. The book is written by A professor of Ecclesiastical History - Yale University.
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Hence the words of Christ that speak of physical death....Peter wanted to fight and save their physical lives.Mar 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mar 8:32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mar 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Mar 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mar 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mar 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Messiah, now will you restore the kingdom? We're ready to fight!
If anyone is ashamed to follow me/my words and turn the other cheek, bless those that curse you, and do the will of the Father. I will be ashamed of you.
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Of course, some of these anccient stories about "what happened to the apostles" are more reliable than others.
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The "peace" symbol was worn by hippies @ armed forces people during the Vietnam War.
Coffee Break
Well I found two of them which are Thaddeus and Bartholomew who traveled through Armenia to preach the word of God.
Source
Coffee Break
The Early Church Fathers: Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume 5
Hippolytus on the Twelve Apostles. Where Each of Them Preached, and Where He Met His End.
1. Peter preached the Gospel in Pontus, and Galatia, and Cappadocia, and Betania, and Italy, and Asia, and was afterwards crucified by Nero in Rome with his head downward, as he had himself desired to suffer in that manner.
2. Andrew preached to the Scythians and Thracians, and was crucified, suspended on an olive tree, at Patrae, a town of Achaia; and there too he was buried.
3. John, again, in Asia, was banished by Domitian the king to the isle of Patmos, in which also he wrote his Gospel and saw the apocalyptic vision; and in Trajan’s time he fell asleep at Ephesus, where his remains were sought for, but could not be found.
4. James, his brother, when preaching in Judea, was cut off with the sword by Herod the tetrarch, and was buried there.
5. Philip preached in Phrygia, and was crucified in Hierapolis with his head downward in the time of Domitian, and was buried there.
6. Bartholomew, again, preached to the Indians, to whom he also gave the Gospel according to Matthew, and was crucified with his head downward, and was buried in Allanum, a town of the great Armenia.
7. And Matthew wrote the Gospel in the Hebrew tongue, and published it at Jerusalem, and fell asleep at Hierees, a town of Parthia.
8. And Thomas preached to the Parthians, Medes, Persians, Hyrcanians, Bactrians, and Margians, and was thrust through in the four members of his body with a pine spears at Calamene, the city of India, and was buried there.
9. And James the son of Alphaeus, when preaching in Jerusalem, was stoned to death by the Jews, and was buried there beside the temple.
10. Jude, who is also called Lebbaeus, preached to the people of Edessa, and to all Mesopotamia, and fell asleep at Berytus, and was buried there.
11. Simon the Zealot, the son of Clopas, who is also called Jude, became bishop of Jerusalem after James the Just, and fell asleep and was buried there at the age of 120 years.
12. And Matthias, who was one of the seventy, was numbered along with the eleven apostles, and preached in Jerusalem, and fell asleep and was buried there.
13. And Paul entered into the apostleship a year after the assumption of Christ; and beginning at Jerusalem, he advanced as far as Illyricum, and Italy, and Spain, preaching the Gospel for five-and-thirty years. And in the time of Nero he was beheaded at Rome, and was buried there.
Good bye.
Yeah, it was known as Britannia.
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