Shall We Continue In Sin? God Forbid!!!!

[Brother Mark]

Just like Jesus illustrates. If you lust you have already committed adultery in your heart. Another example for modern Cristians, If you have contempt towards a homosexual, you in effect hate him & thus murder him in your heart. There is just know way around sin.

Sure there is! Jesus Christ! We can be set free from that which is in us. We are no longer slaves to sin but slaves to righteousness. But he who commits sin, is a slave to sin. Yet, we do not have to be.

Rom 6:16-18
16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.
NASU

Grace to you!

Mark

[Brother Mark]

Thank you,

So that would be having the sin but not yeilding to it? Knowing how to do the deed whether to do what is right or to do that which is wrong.

Firstfruits

Yes. Almost. Sometimes, we don't know. For instance, John didn't know it was wrong to call fire down from heaven on the Samaritans. Jesus had to tell him "you do not know what spirit you speak of". He wasn't speaking from the Holy Spirit but from another spirit. It was an area of John's life that had to be cleansed. That is why Jesus washes feet, that part of us that is closest to the earth. We are clean, but there are parts of us that need to be washed.

John 13:9-11
9 Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my head." 10 Jesus said to him, "He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you." 11 For He knew the one who was betraying Him; for this reason He said, "Not all of you are clean."
NASU

So while we walk with Jesus, our feet get dirty in the world and require washing. Yet, Jesus says we are completely clean. We are clean, yet part of us is dirty. Thus, we can have sin, but still be clean. And we may not know what we have is sin till Jesus says "you do not know what spirit you speak of" or until he says "you will deny me". Neither Peter nor John were aware of there sin but it was in them and when the opportunity presented itself, it manifested. Both, after learning of their sin overcame it.

Grace and peace,

Mark

[embankmentlb]

It is still sin, just not seen by God.

[Brother Mark]

It is still sin, just not seen by God.

But the scriptures say, we are no longer slaves to sin nor do we have to commit sin. Where are the scriptures that say we can't overcome sin?

Rom 6:16-18
16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.
NASU

There are plenty of other passages too. It's a great thing to know that we don't have to sin and that in Jesus, we can overcome it!

[VerticalReality]

Again I say that John is not wrong, but I am wondering why you have omitted the fact that it also speaks of what happens when we confess our sins.

1 Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1 Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Do you truly believe we can be righteous and at the same time be unrighteous, clean and unclean, and still be in God?

Shall we continue to sin and still please God?

Firstfruits

How can a person be free from Egypt and yet still have inhabitants in their land?

[Firstfruits]

Yes. Almost. Sometimes, we don't know. For instance, John didn't know it was wrong to call fire down from heaven on the Samaritans. Jesus had to tell him "you do not know what spirit you speak of". He wasn't speaking from the Holy Spirit but from another spirit. It was an area of John's life that had to be cleansed. That is why Jesus washes feet, that part of us that is closest to the earth. We are clean, but there are parts of us that need to be washed.

John 13:9-11
9 Simon Peter said to Him, "Lord, then wash not only my feet, but also my hands and my head." 10 Jesus said to him, "He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you." 11 For He knew the one who was betraying Him; for this reason He said, "Not all of you are clean."
NASU

So while we walk with Jesus, our feet get dirty in the world and require washing. Yet, Jesus says we are completely clean. We are clean, yet part of us is dirty. Thus, we can have sin, but still be clean. And we may not know what we have is sin till Jesus says "you do not know what spirit you speak of" or until he says "you will deny me". Neither Peter nor John were aware of there sin but it was in them and when the opportunity presented itself, it manifested. Both, after learning of their sin overcame it.

Grace and peace,

Mark

Would the following scripture apply when choosing whether to that which is right or that which is wrong?

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

How do we do this?

Firstfruits

[Firstfruits]

How can a person be free from Egypt and yet still have inhabitants in their land?

As in the following scriptures do we then have to be on one side or the other?

2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

1 Jn 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Firstfruits

[VerticalReality]

As in the following scriptures do we then have to be on one side or the other?

2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

1 Jn 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Firstfruits

You didn't answer my question.

How can a person be free from Egypt and yet still have inhabitants in their land?

[Firstfruits]

You didn't answer my question.

How can a person be free from Egypt and yet still have inhabitants in their land?

Is this in regards to my question about being cleansed of all unrighteousness by the blood of Jesus and still be unclean?

Firstfruits

[VerticalReality]

Is this in regards to my question about being cleansed of all unrighteousness by the blood of Jesus and still be unclean?

Firstfruits

Here was your question:

Do you truly believe we can be righteous and at the same time be unrighteous, clean and unclean, and still be in God?

How do you think the Israelites could be free from Egypt (captivity to sin) yet still have inhabitants (things of the enemy) in their land?

[Firstfruits]

Here was your question:



How do you think the Israelites could be free from Egypt (captivity to sin) yet still have inhabitants (things of the enemy) in their land?

Could you please supply a scripture regarding Israel being free of Egypt but still have inhabitants in their land?

Thanks,

Firstfruits

[VerticalReality]

Could you please supply a scripture regarding Israel being free of Egypt but still have inhabitants in their land?

Thanks,

Firstfruits

I did in post #19.

Here it is again.

Exodus 23:29-31
I will not drive them out from before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the beasts of the field become too numerous for you. Little by little I will drive them out from before you, until you have increased, and you inherit the land. And I will set your bounds from the Red Sea to the sea, Philistia, and from the desert to the River. For I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand, and you shall drive them out before you.

[Firstfruits]

I did in post #19.

Here it is again.

Exodus 23:29-31
I will not drive them out from before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the beasts of the field become too numerous for you. Little by little I will drive them out from before you, until you have increased, and you inherit the land. And I will set your bounds from the Red Sea to the sea, Philistia, and from the desert to the River. For I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand, and you shall drive them out before you.

God told them when he would drive the enemy out, they were not to dwell in the land of the Israelites.

Ex 23:33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest They make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

Why do you believe they remained?

Firstfruits

[VerticalReality]

God told them when he would drive the enemy out, they were not to dwell in the land of the Israelites.

Ex 23:33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest They make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

Why do you believe they remained?

Firstfruits

It tells us why they remained.

lest the land become desolate and the beasts of the field become too numerous for you.

The Lord goes on to say that He will drive them out gradually from before them until they have increased and inherit the land.

So, the Israelites were free from the captivity of Egypt yet at the same time they had inhabitants (the enemy) in their land. How can this be?

[Firstfruits]

It tells us why they remained.

lest the land become desolate and the beasts of the field become too numerous for you.

The Lord goes on to say that He will drive them out gradually from before them until they have increased and inherit the land.

So, the Israelites were free from the captivity of Egypt yet at the same time they had inhabitants (the enemy) in their land. How can this be?

Because God told them what would happen if they were driven out of the land before Israel had grown and were able to look after the land.

Firstfruits