Overcoming Sin

[Diggindeeper]

I've already acknowledged the same. However, all the years in ministry that you have had should have proven to you that even Christians, especially those who are babes, have a tendency to not look to Christ at all times either. This is why teaching the truth is so important. Many young believers will find themselves in the exact same predicament Paul was in without knowing and believing from the heart the truth of God's word.

I was saved at the young age of ten. Actually, I did not know of so many 'sins' that people become involved in. Neither did I know much about God's Word. I do know that for weeks, I was convicted by the Holy Spirit that I needed Christ Jesus in my heart and in my life. I did immediately begin to study and study scriptures. Memorizing scriptures. Learning and learning....

I also knew early on that there are things we just simply should NOT do. Certain things were just not 'right.' And I knew that I just should not do them. Certainly my mind was not as 'renewed' as it should have been. Not at all.

Please don't tell me that grown up men and women don't even know THAT much, because they haven't been taught all the thou shalts and thou shalt nots. The truth is, people get into certain things because they WANT to. They continue in them because they WANT to. Deep inside, they know they should not be doing those things. But they continue.

Because they WANT to.

[VerticalReality]

Please don't tell me that grown up men and women don't even know THAT much, because they haven't been taught all the thou shalts and thou shalt nots. The truth is, people get into certain things because they WANT to. They continue in them because they WANT to. Deep inside, they know they should not be doing those things. But they continue.

Because they WANT to.

Romans 7:15
For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.

[Sirus]

I've known lots of christians who compromise and make excuses.

No. You've known lots of professing christians who compromise and make excuses.

I know I can't do it in my own strength.

Great! Then why do you try?

ClayInHisHands -"...but guess what, I do it again, the same thing. I'm getting to the point now where I am so worn out from returning to the same sin over and over again. I might see a woman and think she is beautiful and occasionally my mind might wander and I keep telling myself...STOP IT!! I just realized today, I've always known it before, but I must take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."

How do you do that?

Yes some sins, I meant evey single shred of sin in our lives doesn't completely hault and never exist anymore the moment we proclaim Christ....or does it? Really I'm asking honestly, does it.....is it suppose to?

I wasn't talking about when we are born again. I was talking about when we are tempted. Why can't we 'stop the sin cold turkey' and not do it again?

These boards, I'll tell ya, it's hard to express yourself and come off the way you intend and not be misunderstood sometimes. We need to have a device to record and then be able to click to hear the audio of that person reading what they wrote. lol

I agree!

[Sirus]

Paul's issue in Romans 7 was sure enough impossible because Paul was looking to the law of Moses to make him righteous and sin free... he wasn't looking to Christ at all.

How is 'stop it' because Christ commands it any different than someone looking to a written law that says 'stop it' because God commands it? That's turning Christ into a Moses and His words into a law.

[Sirus]

Please don't tell me that grown up men and women don't even know THAT much, because they haven't been taught all the thou shalts and thou shalt nots. The truth is, people get into certain things because they WANT to. They continue in them because they WANT to. Deep inside, they know they should not be doing those things. But they continue.

Because they WANT to.

Once again, we're not talking about sinners.

[ProjectPeter]

How is 'stop it' because Christ commands it any different than someone looking to a written law that says 'stop it' because God commands it? That's turning Christ into a Moses and His words into a law.

There is a law of Christ ... It can be summed up as love God with all your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself. And as to turning Christ into a Moses and His words into a law... no clue what you mean by that gibber jabber! News flash... the words of Christ are to most clearly and certainly to be obeyed. Call it a law... call it a rule... call it whatever you want to call it. One must obey them.

[Sirus]

There is a law of Christ ... It can be summed up as love God with all your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself.

That's not the law of Christ. That's the law. Which of course is Christ but the law of Christ spoken of in the NT is not a regurgitation of Deu 6:5. If you try to obey because of that, not only are you trying to be righteous by the law, but you will fail. The law of Christ is 100% effectual to him that believes.

And as to turning Christ into a Moses and His words into a law... no clue what you mean by that gibber jabber! News flash... the words of Christ are to most clearly and certainly to be obeyed. Call it a law... call it a rule... call it whatever you want to call it. One must obey them.

Turn christianity into a man made religion if you want to. I'll pass. I'll obey the words of Christ by faith and not attempt to follow a law on my own.

[ProjectPeter]

That's not the law of Christ. That's the law. Which of course is Christ but the law of Christ spoken of in the NT is not a regurgitation of Deu 6:5. If you try to obey because of that, not only are you trying to be righteous by the law, but you will fail. The law of Christ is 100% effectual to him that believes.

I see... so we can't love GOd with all our heart, soul, and mind and love our neighbor as ourself?

Turn christianity into a man made religion if you want to. I'll pass. I'll obey the words of Christ by faith and not attempt to follow a law on my own.

Man made? Jesus' words are to you a man made doctrine? Man... you're eating some nasty fruit if you really believe that!

[roaring tiger]

I see... so we can't love GOd with all our heart, soul, and mind and love our neighbor as ourself?

Man made? Jesus' words are to you a man made doctrine? Man... you're eating some nasty fruit if you really believe that!

Hi,
This is not address to any one but to those who can accept. My opinion about to love God with all our heart, soul, and mind is a law from Lord God and we must obey it;but it was easy to say
rather to to do. If you have 100 tempererance, forgiveness,and excusses that was deposited in your heart it shall not be enough and will be lost within 365 days. so result is same=failure to comply to the commandment.
Thanks and blessing.
in love of Christ./RT.

[ProjectPeter]

If you have 100 tempererance, forgiveness,and excusses that was deposited in your heart it shall not be enough and will be lost within 365 days. so result is same=failure to comply to the commandment.

Not sure I understand what you are saying here... could you try again?

[roaring tiger]

Not sure I understand what you are saying here... could you try again?

Hi!!!ProjectPeter,
For a brief explanation we can walk according to this commandment but not all the time and not for all your neighbor we can love them, yes, but daily exprience shall prove it to you; you'll fail.
Thanks.
in love of Christ./RT.

[ProjectPeter]

Hi!!!ProjectPeter,
For a brief explanation we can walk according to this commandment but not all the time and not for all your neighbor we can love them, yes, but daily exprience shall prove it to you; you'll fail.
Thanks.
in love of Christ./RT.

So then, you do not really believe that with God... all things are possible... even you coming to a point in your life where you no longer fail?

[roaring tiger]

So then, you do not really believe that with God... all things are possible... even you coming to a point in your life where you no longer fail?

I do believe that in God nothing is imposible; but we are human with limited temptation, and I shall be boasting that I can not err.
Thanks.
in love of Christ./RT.

[Firstfruits]

Hi!!!ProjectPeter,
For a brief explanation we can walk according to this commandment but not all the time and not for all your neighbor we can love them, yes, but daily exprience shall prove it to you; you'll fail.
Thanks.
in love of Christ./RT.

Can you please explain what you mean by saying that we can "walk according to the commandment but not all the time"

It seem like saying, God can keep us safe but not all the time.

Firstfruits

[roaring tiger]

Can you please explain what you mean by saying that we can "walk according to the commandment but not all the time"

It seem like saying, God can keep us safe but not all the time.

Firstfruits

Hi!!!Firstfruit,
I don't want to be hypocrite that sometimes there are incident that we cannot avoid to be angry, if a man never got angry you are an abnormal, so the scripture teach us to be angry but not let your anger till sunset. As we know anger houses in the heart of a fool. just an example.
thanks and many blessing.
in love of Christ./RT