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This is such a huge area of nebulous confusion. Everyone refers to free will and has their own concept of what it is; but I don't see much clear understanding by definition.
"Free" will is a misnomer. Break it down and define it. I'll chime in later.
'Adonai Yeshua'
Adam and Eve were told not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or the tree of knowledge and because GOD gave them "Free Will"= choice they did.
Free Will equals Free choice.
If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.
Andrew_no_one
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Which is why I like the term "free moral agency" much better. It describes it more Scripturally.
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The ability to make a choice. You chose to ask a question; I chose to reply.Originally Posted by PneumaPsucheSoma
St. Tidworthy the Suave
Free will: the ability to choose. That's pretty much the long and short of it.
It boils down to choosing God's will (perfect), or our own will (imperfect). The first leads to spiritual growth and refinement, while the latter leads to spiritual stagnation (perhaps even atrophy) and obliviousness.
(I freely chose to be brief for a change.)
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soli Deo gloria
Free will - the ability to choose to obey or disobey the Lord God.
Psalm 19:14
May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight,
O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
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What is it, though?
Is it a part of the mind?
Is it separate from the mind?
Etc.
'Adonai Yeshua'
Since it takes the mind to make a decision I would say it is from heart and the mind.
If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.
Andrew_no_one
soli Deo gloria
Would it be a stretch to say the decision making process occours in the mind and the capasity to gravitate towards making decisions that reflect the will of God can be measured in the heart?
Psalm 19:14
May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight,
O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
2 Peter 1:1-11 Live it!
How can anything man does be apart from the mind?
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A.W. Tozer said, "To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience.”
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Is "free will" a structural part of man in any way; or is it simply a resulting function?
2 Peter 1:1-11 Live it!
I don't think that God laid out the exact "recipe" of how man was wired... so folks can guess but that is the best they can do.
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A.W. Tozer said, "To escape the error of salvation by works we have fallen into the opposite error of salvation without obedience.”
GO.... SERVE YOUR KING!
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It can't. So if the mind is necessary for "free will", is "free will" just a functional abstraction or concept of the mind or is it a separate "something" that co-functions with the mind?How can anything man does be apart from the mind?
guest
Would Hebrews 4:12 help at all? And 1 Thess. 5:23?I don't think that God laid out the exact "recipe" of how man was wired... so folks can guess but that is the best they can do.
"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."
We see spirit, soul, and body in these verses. Is the "free" will part of any of these? If so, which one? If not, what is it, etc.?
Is "free" will the best description? Is it in scripture?
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I know you don't mean the anatomical organ that pumps blood. How would you specifically define heart in this context?
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