It is finished.
4 "I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.
The 70th week was fulfilled after the 69th week
There is/was no gap between it
Last edited by Realist1981; Sep 30th 2010 at 03:42 AM. Reason: 2nd sentence
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I believe that the 69 weeks have occured and that the 70th week is yet future.
When Jesus said, "IT IS FINISHED", it really was. The destruction of Jerusalem and especially the destruction of the temple in 70AD signified the complete ending of the 70 weeks of Daniel.
Its done. God wants no more sacrifices. Jesus was our forever, one and only, needed sacrifice. Never again will any of those animal sacrifices be acceptable to God.
12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Unless the daily sacrifice taken away, and the abomination occur on the same day, there is a well defined gap here, starting with the crucifixion, and ending with the abomination. The final 3.5 years before the resurrection occurs after an age that starts with the crucifixion and ends with the abomination.
This is why I believe half of the 70th seven has been fulfilled up to the crucifixion, then we have this non-Jewish age when God brings his word to the nations, and then we will have the last 3.5 years of the Jewish period when the great abomination appears.Sure there have been other abominations, but none greater then a man who declares himslef God and is worshipped as such by the entire earth, as prophesied in Thessalonians and Daniel 11, and Revelation 13. This event occurs 3.5 years before the resurrection and Daniel 12 confirms this abomination occurring 3.5 years before the resurrection.
And He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations He shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
1. The work of atonement was finished by Jesus on the cross. Who is debating that?
2. If Messiah was cut off at the end of 69th week (as clearly stated in Daniel 9:26) around 30-33 AD and the destruction of the temple in 70 AD is the fulfillment of the 70th week, then there is a gap between the 69th and 70th week.
3. Just because something isn't acceptable to God doesn't mean that people don't go right ahead and do it anyway.
Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
It seems clear to me that since He would be cut off after the 69th week that means He was going to be cut off in the midst of the 70th week. Also, it doesn't say that the destruction of the city and the temple had to occur during the 70 weeks. The only things it specifically says would be fulfilled by the end of the 70 weeks are mentioned in Daniel 9:24 as well as the confirming of the covenant during the 70th week and the ceasing of the sacrifices and offerings.
25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that Jesus ministry begins at the start of the 70th week (vs. 27). That would place it after the 69 weeks (vs. 26) but before he was cut off (vs 26). Then at the beginning of His ministry and the 70th week He confirmed, not the everlasting covenant but a one week (7 year) covenant with many (vs. 27). Then in the midst of the week, 3 1/2 years from the start, he died, and spiritually stripped away the meaningfulness of the temple sacrifices (vs. 27) to God . Then 40 years later some people of a prince to come (vs. 26) actually destroyed the temple in 70 AD.
If that is what you are saying. I have a couple of questions. What was the one week (7 year) covenant that Jesus made? With whom did he make it? How did he continue to abide by the covenant for the remaining second half of the week? When did the covenant end and what marked its' end?
Additionally, I'm wondering if Jesus' death occurs in the midst of the 70th week (at 69 1/2 weeks) and his death and resurrection completes the stated purpose of the 70 weeks recorded in vs. 24 to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. , what is the last half of the 70th week for?
Jesus confirmed the everlasting new covenant with His blood and His once for all sacrifice and offering made all other sacrifices and offerings meaningless and I believe it is in that sense that sacrifices and offerings ceased in the midst of the 70th week. No more sacrifices and offerings needed to be made once Jesus made His once for all sacrifice and offering. I believe the confirming of the covenant continued at Pentecost with the coming of the Holy Spirit in power first unto the Jews. Once the gospel started going out in the power of the Holy Spirit to the Gentiles I believe the 70th week was finished at that point.
Thanks for sharing your ideas so clearly. Definitely still pondering all this.
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