Rev 13:11 he had two horns like a lamb

[Caleb]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Is there other scripture that relates to this other beast?

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

The only thing I can think of is that two horns like a lamb, are religious (perhaps Sunni and Shi'a) and speak as a dragon.

[sudds]

Rev 13:11 he had two horns like a lamb
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Is there other scripture that relates to this other beast?

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

The only thing I can think of is that two horns like a lamb, are religious (perhaps Sunni and Shi'a) and speak as a dragon.

Hello Caleb.

I think the beast with the two horns represent the priestly governance that worked against Christ during his ministry. Oddly, there were two high priest during that time.

Luke 3:1. In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar—when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene—
Luke 3:2. during the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert.

[RevLogos]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Is there other scripture that relates to this other beast?

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

The only thing I can think of is that two horns like a lamb, are religious (perhaps Sunni and Shi'a) and speak as a dragon.

John uses the "lamb" metaphor repeatedly in Revelation to refer to Jesus. I think this is no different. When the Beast sets himself up to look "like a lamb" it means to deceive us and take the place of the Christ. It is exactly what Paul is saying in 2 Th 2:4.

I'm not sure what the 2 horns means, probably two distinct enemies of Christ. It could be, in today's world, secular humanism and Islam. Both seek to replace Christ.

[ross3421]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

Well who is this lamb representing? Do we know of another lamb? Of course so this is a counterfeit lamb. Now in the true lamb what would these horns possibly represent? How about his lineage? So could these two horns represent the house of David and the tribes of Judah and Benjimin? I think so. Note the other 10 horns in the first beast which could represent the 10northern tribes equalling 12. So this beast is a counterfeit as displays unity with the 12 tribes (144,000) for a time but they later turn on the beast.

[ross3421]

John uses the "lamb" metaphor repeatedly in Revelation to refer to Jesus. I think this is no different. When the Beast sets himself up to look "like a lamb" it means to deceive us and take the place of the Christ. It is exactly what Paul is saying in 2 Th 2:4.

I'm not sure what the 2 horns means, probably two distinct enemies of Christ. It could be, in today's world, secular humanism and Islam. Both seek to replace Christ.

So understanding the beast is setting himself to look like the lamb then the two horns would also be a display of a counterfeit not something different. So what could the two horns represent? Two of the 12 tribes of Israel his supposed limeage of the one he is replicating.

2 horns = the tribe of Judah and Benjamin

[truthseekera]

Hello Caleb.

I think the beast with the two horns represent the priestly governance that worked against Christ during his ministry. Oddly, there were two high priest during that time.

Luke 3:1. In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar—when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene—
Luke 3:2. during the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert.

Hi Sudds

Your explanation appears biblical sound. Continue to be guided by the Holy Spirit. Good explanation.

[DurbanDude]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Is there other scripture that relates to this other beast?

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

The only thing I can think of is that two horns like a lamb, are religious (perhaps Sunni and Shi'a) and speak as a dragon.

1) Horns represent countries,
2) animals (beasts) represent empires,
3) relative sizes of horns represent relative sizes of countries.

We can see this precedent set in Daniel 7 and Daniel 8 , especially Daniel 8 when we have the large horn of Alexander's kingdom, and then the four smaller horns of his empire split into four regions.

Thus this beast of Revelation is an empire. We can see it is a religious empire, because it clearly has the ability to control the religious beliefs of earth's inhabitants. It has two powerpoints, each one which is geographically tiny. Each of the two countries that control the empire are described as very small, like a lamb's horn, not large like Alexander's horn in Daniel 8.

Thus this beast is an alliance between two tiny religious centres that control the whole earth. I interpret this as another description of the end-times power of Rome, which is reflected in the divided empire of Rome as described in the statue timeline of Daniel 2, and reflected in the final ten horns kingdom of Rome in Daniel 7, and is reflected in the woman city of seven hills as described in Revelaton 17. Rome is even referred to in Daniel 9:26 when we are told that the future leader will come from Rome, the armies that destroyed the temple.

Rome divided into two empires, Rome and Constantinople/Istanbul, and it is these two cities that will have religious power over the whole earth. I believe the Islamic caliphate will be re-established in Istanbul, and Rome and Istanbul will control the world... co-operating together to set up the antichrist in Jerusalem.

[Saved7]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Is there other scripture that relates to this other beast?

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

The only thing I can think of is that two horns like a lamb, are religious (perhaps Sunni and Shi'a) and speak as a dragon.

That's what I suggested before, though some think those two horns represent to the two divisions within Israel...the 10 tribes that broke from Judah's reign and left only two that David's line reigned over.

[seeker_truth]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Is there other scripture that relates to this other beast?

And, what might the "two horns like a lamb" represent?

The only thing I can think of is that two horns like a lamb, are religious (perhaps Sunni and Shi'a) and speak as a dragon.

When a beast comes up out of the earth, the scripture speaks of a man..aka the false prophet, Rev.19:20

The false prophet does not appear as a lamb, he has two horns like a lamb..

The beast out of the sea always represents a Kingdom or Empire, as it does in Rev.13:1..The beast out of the earth, the false prophet, reigns over the beast out of the sea, Rev.13:11.

Horns represent his political and religious reign..

[Servant89]

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Look for someone popular in the world, worshipped by millions, that people made statues of him with a mortal wound by the sword and yet still lives. something like this:







And take a look at this link below fulfilling Rev 13:13, the only one on the planet that has done that. it just so happens that this guy that fulfilled Rev 13:13 showed up only 6 times, always at the 6th hour of the day and always on day # 13 of the month. Yes, the only character that ever fulfilled Rev 13:13 showed up 6 times, and only on days # 13 of the month. Take a look at this 2 minute video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6SaC2t0hJs

Peace

[Servant89]

Horns might mean power

Dan 8:6 And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.

Describing God... Hab 3:4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.

Satan wants to be like God...



I think the key hint here is LIKE A LAMB.

The virgin of Guadalupe is shown with two horns by her feet (yes, they probably meant that to be the moon).



And see this character with two horns like a lamb below.



Shalom

[Servant89]

The key to identify the antichrist and the false prophet is found in Isaiah 14:12-14 where it says that Satan wants to be like the Most High, identical to God. Anything different from God is not perfect. We see Satan imitating God even in His triune structure in Rev 16:13 and Rev 13. We see there the Satanic trinity, the dragon (anti-God), the beast (anti-Christ) and the other beast, the false prophet (the anti-Spirit) sharing the same relationship the 3 persons of the Holy Trinity share. In Rev 13:3 we see the dragon giving all his authority to the antichrist just like God the Father gave His authority to Christ (Mat 28:18 and Joh 5:22). We see the false prophet doing the miracles instead of the antichrist just like Jesus did nothing of Himself but used the Holy Spirit to work the wonders (see Mat 12:28; Luk 4:18; Joh 5:30; and Joh 8:28). We see the false prophet appearing and doing his miracles IN THE PRESENCE (BEFORE HIM, Rev 13:12) of the antichrist (AFTER antichrist was revealed, exalted) just like the Holy Spirit was given in Acts 2 AFTER Christ was glorified as it is stated in John 7:37-39. We see the false prophet moving people to worship the antichrist (Rev 13:12) just like the Holy Spirit moves people to worship Christ (John 16:14). The false prophet has power to give life (in a lying kind of way, 2 Th 2:9; Rev 13:14-17 and that is imitating the Holy Spirit who has real power to give life. No one can compete with the apparitions of the virgin in taking the place of the Holy Spirit in the Catholic Church.

Notice in Rev 16:13 that demons come out of the mouth of the dragon, the beast (antichrist) and the false prophet, spirits like frogs. This is imitating the Holy Trinity. The Holy Trinity sent the Holy Spirit. We see God the Father sending the Holy Spirit in John 14:26, and Gal 4:6. The Holy Spirit was sent by God the Son (Jesus) in Luke 24:49, John 20:22 and Mark 1:8. The Holy Spirit is also sent by Himself in 1 Cor 12:8-11. That is why the satanic trinity is pictured sending spirits out of their mouths (like Jesus did it in John 20:22). That puts them (dragon, beast and false prophet) at the same level just like the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are on the same level. And just like Jesus and the HS are subject to God the Father, the antichrist and the false prophet are subject to Satan. There is more, a whole lot more.

Shalom

[Servant89]

I want you to notice how incredibly well the spirit of the aparition of the virgin imitates the Holy Spirit.

(1) If the false prophet imitates the Holy Spirit, he must come as a spirit. The apparitions of the so-called Virgin Mary always appear as a spirit, never in solid flesh and blood, just like the Holy Spirit.

(2) The false prophet, if it imitates the Holy Spirit as expected, it should portray an image of holiness above all others (Mat 12:32). What a coincidence that the virgin apparitions are commonly addressed as the Virgin Mary most pure, spotless dove, most holy sanctuary, most holy vessel, etc.. This character (Virgin Apparitions) is pictured as sinless, super holy, ever virgin when the Bible says (Rev 15:4) that only God is Holy. In the Catholic book the Dictionary of Mary (pages 161 – 169 and 210-212), they give the Virgin Mary the following titles that resemble the Holy Spirit.

Mother of divine Grace, Mother of good counsel, Cause of our joy, Spiritual vessel, Health of the sick, Refuge of sinners, Comforter of the afflicted, Help of Christians, Glorious Intercessor, Provider of joys of eternal life, Advocate of Grace, Comfort of Christians, Consoler of the Afflicted, Dove of simplicity, Dwelling place of Christ, Dwelling place of God, Fountain of living waters, God’s Olive Tree (where the anointing comes from), Lamp Unquenchable, Life-giver, Living Temple of the Deity, Nourisher of God and man, Neck of the Mystical body, Spotless Dove of Beauty, Tabernacle of the Word, Victor over the Serpent.

In the Catholic book “Those who saw her”, page 17 it states: “The Mother of God, some maintain, is the true prophet of the New Testament.” They are talking about demonic manifestations that look like a lamb but speak as a dragon as if those events reflect the appearance of Mary the human being, the actual mother of Jesus. Mary the human being will never attract attention to herself saying: "Jesus wants to promote the veneration of me." like the virgin of Fatima did (the one on the video link I showed before). In that same book, two pages later (page 19) it states the reasons why the Catholic Church (Father Laurentin) claim Mary had to come in those apparitions. Notice how these reasons all relate to the ministry of the Holy Spirit. He said it is:

1) to manifest the hidden presence of God;
2) to renew community life;
3) to convert sinners
4) to reawaken and stimulate faith, and;
5) to renew hope and dynamism in the Church

Does that sound the job of the Holy Spirit or what?

Shalom

[Servant89]

(3) Imitating the Holy Spirit, the virgin claims that "she" is the one that carried Christ from God the Father and delivered Him to us on earth. The Holy Spirit is the one that did that (Luke 1:35). This is done by portraying "herself" (the apparitions) as pregnant with Christ or with baby Jesus. Jesus is grown up now with a glorified body that bears the marks of the cross. He is no longer a baby. He would not appear as a child, read Mat 24:23 and Mark 13:21. This type of apparition glorifies the creature (she is in charge taking care of baby Jesus who apparently depends on her) and diminishes the Creator who is blessed for evermore (see Paul's letter to the Romans 1:25).

(4) According to Rev 13:12, the false prophet has the same power and authority as the leader of Rome (Rev 13:12). Again, what a coincidence, that the virgin apparitions as demonstrated by the track record of history, have the same authority as the leader of Rome to generate doctrine. The leader of Rome and the apparitions are the only ones that can generate doctrine on their own in the Catholic Church. The apparition of the virgin of Fatima invented the worship of Mary as a catholic doctrine. Mary has been worshiped by millions before, but never with the Vatican's permission in writing. Fifty seven years later, Pope Paul 6th approved the doctrine of the worship of Mary in 1974 with his encyclical Marialis Cultus. The virgin apparitions are responsible for the doctrine of the rosary (the virgin invented the rosary when "she" appeared to saint Dominic), the doctrine of papal infallibility was invented by the virgin apparition in La Salete, [1846] in France, the scapular, the miraculous medal and many other Catholic doctrine were invented by that spirit.

Shalom

[genealogist]

Of all the posts, I concur with #9 --- good job, seeker_truth.

Servant89: Yes, those pictures are the virgin standing on the moon (as opposed to horns) although it makes me think that this is a subtle hint of horns. You see, the picture is an allusion to Revelation 12 of the woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. Those astronomically astute enough to notice will realize that the horns of the moon are faced the wrong way --- they should face downward.

Revelation 12 is also suggestive of an astronomical position (sun in Virgo, moon in Libra) taking place at the Feast of Trumpets. It was at this time Christ was born and in the end times the commencement of the Tribulation (when the Trumpet will sound), including all the future characters in Revelation such as the beast, the false prophet, the manchild, etc.