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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew_no_one View Post
    I do not understand the two-faced part. Our allegiance is with the Lord, so why would we be facilitating the preaching of a false gospel or fake religion?
    No what I am saying is most on here in response to the OP think its ok to break the law to preach the gospel...which goes against what the bible says in Romans about following the laws of the land...YET if a Muslim or anyone else breaks the law preaching their religion we think they should be in trouble, (but not us). I am talking about legal stuff here along with what the bible says about following that legal stuff...not who's faith is correct.
    "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    What will you do when they make it illegal to preach on the streets? Because that day will come.
    Please could everyone pray for Mieke and Charles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daughter View Post
    What will you do when they make it illegal to preach on the streets? Because that day will come.
    I don't preach on the streets myself...I use the internet...we can reach a wider group of people all over the world and I think trying to stop that (image trying to censor IM chatting? emails, etc...) would be nearly impossible...plus trying to clear out all the millions of Christian video's all over the net, the songs, the messages...they are everywhere...

    God bless
    "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Quote Originally Posted by amazzin View Post
    Although in principle I agree with you, I also know that decades ago this was very effective. I know 3 people who got saved that way and now are pastors. So, yes...today we need to find a better and different way to reach what I call a TGIF generation (Twitter-Google-Iphone-Facebook)

    What works best for you and why?
    I love what you said here. It reminds me of how the Israelites held on to the bronze serpent. But it was "neshutua" or something like that. It means "just a piece of brass". I've seen churches hold on to sunday school even though it wasn't near the blessing it once was... but tradition can be hard to break. We need to listen to the Lord to find out how he's moving today. He might not use the same thing today he used yesterday.
    "May the Lamb that was slain receive the just reward for His sufferings." A quote by Moravian missionary that sold himself (along with a friend) into slavery to reach those that the slave owner prevented from hearing the gospel.

    May I live for Him and not for me.

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew_no_one View Post
    There are a great many people who break the law (and are punished) to tell others about Jesus, sometimes they are called martyrs...
    Duhhh,,,,I should have clued into that ....LOL
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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    There are also some people who break the law and are punished. It is a great way for the government to pay for your prison ministry...

    That's just how Paul rolled....
    "MISSION: To rescue Christians enslaved by manmade religion and to bring them to the freedom of Jesus."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    There are also some people who break the law and are punished. It is a great way for the government to pay for your prison ministry...

    That's just how Paul rolled....
    true.........
    "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Quote Originally Posted by moonglow View Post
    I don't preach on the streets myself...I use the internet...we can reach a wider group of people all over the world and I think trying to stop that (image trying to censor IM chatting? emails, etc...) would be nearly impossible...plus trying to clear out all the millions of Christian video's all over the net, the songs, the messages...they are everywhere...

    God bless
    I didn't mean you. I meant the original poster.
    Please could everyone pray for Mieke and Charles.

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    That's why when a certain Pastor said before the Olympics in China that it....I'm paraphrasing....."it's not the time to preach the gospel and stir up a whole bunch of trouble".

    I couldn't believe that's what I had heard. Now I have considered that it's possible that he was misquoted and I've taken that into consideration. But along with other "clear as a bell" "heard it from the horses mouth" quotes from him, I tend to lean towards the side that it was probably spot on.

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Quote Originally Posted by daughter View Post
    What will you do when they make it illegal to preach on the streets? Because that day will come.
    Or illegial to pray in schools.
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    with their lips then walk out the door and deny
    Him by their lifestyles. That is what
    an unbelieving world simply
    finds unbelievable."

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Go to jail and preach the Gospel there, I suppose. Works in China, Burma (Myanmar)...worked in the Soviet gulags, in Nazi extermination camps, in the prisons during apartheid in South Africa...

    Works just about every time.

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    What are you implying? I am for a more active approach to learning in SS, rather than just the preach/lecture approach that many Fundamental, conservative, and traditional churches use. SS should be a time where people can learn, not be preached at. Many top educators are going for more active learning methods.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    I love what you said here. It reminds me of how the Israelites held on to the bronze serpent. But it was "neshutua" or something like that. It means "just a piece of brass". I've seen churches hold on to sunday school even though it wasn't near the blessing it once was... but tradition can be hard to break. We need to listen to the Lord to find out how he's moving today. He might not use the same thing today he used yesterday.

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Quote Originally Posted by evangelist6589 View Post
    What are you implying? I am for a more active approach to learning in SS, rather than just the preach/lecture approach that many Fundamental, conservative, and traditional churches use. SS should be a time where people can learn, not be preached at. Many top educators are going for more active learning methods.
    I am just saying we need to see if the Lord is still working in something before keeping it going based only what has happened in the past. God still uses SS in some areas. For some churches, they need to let it go. That's all.

    2 Kings 18:4
    4 He removed the high places and broke down the sacred pillars and cut down the Asherah. He also broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until those days the sons of Israel burned incense to it; and it was called Nehushtan.
    NASU

    We don't need to let SS, or 5 day traditional revivals, or Sunday night services, or visitation or any other thing the Lord has used in the past lock us in to what he is going to do now or in the future. The bronze serpent was valid at one time. At a later time it became an idol. It was just bronze. God used it. It was powerful. But it was always just bronze. If God is still moving in SS at a church, then it needs to stay around. But to keep it around because "we've always done it this way" is not the right reason to keep it.
    "May the Lamb that was slain receive the just reward for His sufferings." A quote by Moravian missionary that sold himself (along with a friend) into slavery to reach those that the slave owner prevented from hearing the gospel.

    May I live for Him and not for me.

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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    Quote Originally Posted by evangelist6589 View Post
    I have little respect for those that walk in restaurants, stores, malls, and other places and preach, pass out tracts and use methods that try and jam the gospel down peoples throats. I am a regular street preacher and evangelist, but I do my work in the appropriate zones which is on the streets, door to door, etc… Nothing wrong with doing it this way. What is wrong is those that go into malls, and restaurants and try and jam it down peoples throats.

    I have tried to persuade a friend of mine about this, but he does not listen. He has people following him in his civil disobedience (even a church), while I have no one following me. But at the end of the day I am not the one with the police record. he just posted on facebook to pray that he does not get tossed from the mall like last time. And then he posted just saying that his friend got detained by the police. I wrote back and said that he was a poor testimony of the living Lord and Romans is quite clear about obeying the laws.

    What do you say?


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    Re: People that break laws to evangelize

    What laws are ok to break in order to evangelize then?

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