You also believe that God is coming to judge the world, is that true?Originally Posted by Fenris
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You also believe that God is coming to judge the world, is that true?
Deadpan Snarker
I have this mental image of the donkey singing
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Deadpan Snarker
Lord knows I've done it enough times!
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Deadpan Snarker
I'm not sure and don't see the relevance. Why can't God forgive without sacrifice?
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Neither Jew Nor Gentile
I answered according to Isaiah 52:13 and according to the scriptures Jesus is already exalted, Israel is yet to be gathered by Gods servant.
Is 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
Is 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Firstfruits
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I will show you the relevance if you follow.
Is this a true verse? Psalm 98:9 Before the LORD; for he cometh to judge the earth: with righteousness shall he judge the world, and the people with equity.
Deadpan Snarker
According to Christians, Jesus is a lot of things. That doesn't preclude something happening to the Jews at some later date. As things stand, there's no reason why the servant can't be Israel.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Deadpan Snarker
Obviously. Now go on...
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Coffee Break
That verse says we will be a day when God comes and judges every one, and it will be with equity. What will David say to God when that day comes?
Deadpan Snarker
Please get to the point already.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Coffee Break
Ok. We are sitting in God's courtroom and David is on trial. David killed Uriah and took his wife, the penalty for both is death, according to the Law. If God is just, what will the verdict be for David?
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Sorry I have to go for a couple hours. I will be back.
Deadpan Snarker
King David is already dead.
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
Neither Jew Nor Gentile
God cannot send Israel to gather itself.
Is 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
Is 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Firstfruits
I live here!
I wholeheartedly agree..it depends on the speaker. There are plenty of places in the OT where 'my people' is used, and it's not referring to God's chosen people. But that's not my point. I'm only being nitpicky when it comes to the book of Isaiah. I can't find one instance in that whole book where 'my people' are not God's chosen people, and that would include ch 53. How are you determining who the speaker is in ch 53? Are you determining that from the last verse in ch 52?
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