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    Re: Donald Trump for President? Will Decide by June

    Quote Originally Posted by Studyin'2Show View Post
    I can understand why a mainstream candidate might not fully embrace the Tea Party (so they can appeal to independents), but why would he shun them? That's like throwing away a huge amount of grassroots voting power.
    Dunno. He's doing some weird calculation that this will help him. As you point out, he's probably wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studyin'2Show View Post
    As long as they're over 35 they're old enough. JFK was 43 when he ran for president. Barak Obama was 47. By next year Ryan will be 42. I think that's been part of the problem with the republican nominations. Why not nominate a guy who's in his prime, just hitting his stride rather than waiting until they get to be an old fuddy-duddy?
    I don't mean to imply he must wait until he's over 60 to run, just that right now (which I don't think is his prime) he can afford to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Studyin'2Show View Post
    I can understand why a mainstream candidate might not fully embrace the Tea Party (so they can appeal to independents), but why would he shun them? That's like throwing away a huge amount of grassroots voting power.
    My speculation. Perhaps he thinks he can drag more fence-sitting voters who voted Democrat last election, but who are not happy with the current state of affairs. If he fully embraces the Tea Party, that might just send all those back to the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    My speculation. Perhaps he thinks he can drag more fence-sitting voters who voted Democrat last election, but who are not happy with the current state of affairs. If he fully embraces the Tea Party, that might just send all those back to the Democrats.
    Sure. Not embracing them I can understand but why dis' them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Studyin'2Show View Post
    Sure. Not embracing them I can understand but why dis' them?
    The Boston Globe quote used "shunned". Is that Romney's word or the Globe's word? Is shunning the same as disrespecting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    The Boston Globe quote used "shunned". Is that Romney's word or the Globe's word? Is shunning the same as disrespecting?
    That's true. I don't want to attribute the shunning to him just because the media did. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Yes, shunning would equate to dis'ing. Disrespect is actually a different word than the slang term dis'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Studyin'2Show View Post
    Yes, shunning would equate to dis'ing. Disrespect is actually a different word than the slang term dis'.
    Really? What's the connotation of the slang mean then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyv View Post
    Really? What's the connotation of the slang mean then?
    Though it could mean some level of disrespect, it also could mean to insult or criticize. I could jokingly insult my friend (Yo' mama type silliness) and it in no way be truly disrespecting them, and it would be appropriate to tell them, "You got dis'ed!" Working with urban youth for so long they've instructed me in the proper usage of such terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrckBrln View Post
    Too young. He can wait. I like him. Don't like his being influenced by Rand, though.

    Like most here, I don't really see anybody in the field I like enough to vote for. Maybe if Romney gets the nomination I will cast my vote in his direction. Certainly, though, if Palin gets the nomination I will be voting for Mr. Obama and will gladly take that ticket to hell some on this forum will give me for doing so.
    With all her faults, why a believer would support an abortion advocate, over someone who recognizes life is important, is amazing to me. if you are wrong on abortion, then your whole value system is screwed up.

    Our sensibilities have become hardened when it comes to abortion. So many babies are being killed that we are numb to the point of calling abortion a procedure.
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    Might I put forth governor Jan Brewer for President? If nothing else, it'd be the first President we've had in more than 30 years that will act appropriately on the border issue

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    Might I put forth governor Jan Brewer for President? If nothing else, it'd be the first President we've had in more than 30 years that will act appropriately on the border issue
    You know, the border issue seems easy to me. Put up a fence along the border. For environmental purposes, put some holes where animals can get through. Watch those holes with cameras or people. Come down hard on those that hire illegal immigrants. Deport illegal immigrants and put them at the back of the line for legal immigration. Pass a law that states after a certain date, those who are here illegally can never have legal status. Then reform the immigration laws and allow many more folks to immigrate here legally. It should be much easier to immigrate here than what it is now.
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    With all her faults, why a believer would support an abortion advocate, over someone who recognizes life is important, is amazing to me. if you are wrong on abortion, then your whole value system is screwed up.

    Our sensibilities have become hardened when it comes to abortion. So many babies are being killed that we are numb to the point of calling abortion a procedure.
    This is more than a little offensive, Brother. I reject the idea that Christians must vote solely based on a candidates stance on abortion. Whether a person is pro-life or pro-choice, when they get into office it seems nothing changes. And hasn't Obama said that he would like to limit the number of abortions? I thought I saw that somewhere. So no, I would not vote for an incompetent pro-lifer for President over a competent Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrckBrln View Post
    This is more than a little offensive, Brother. I reject the idea that Christians must vote solely based on a candidates stance on abortion. Whether a person is pro-life or pro-choice, when they get into office it seems nothing changes. And hasn't Obama said that he would like to limit the number of abortions? I thought I saw that somewhere. So no, I would not vote for an incompetent pro-lifer for President over a competent Obama.
    Obama is all for legalized murder. Let me ask you something BB, if Obama was for allowing the killing of 2 year olds if the mother wanted to do it, is that OK? Is it OK to say "well, I want to limit it happening but I want it to be legal". Also, he used an executive order to OK research with the unborn (embryos).

    No one who is for allowing babies to be murdered is qualified to lead a nation and be president of those very babies he is allowing to be murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    Obama is all for legalized murder. Let me ask you something BB, if Obama was for allowing the killing of 2 year olds if the mother wanted to do it, is that OK? Is it OK to say "well, I want to limit it happening but I want it to be legal". Also, he used an executive order to OK research with the unborn (embryos).

    No one who is for allowing babies to be murdered is qualified to lead a nation and be president of those very babies he is allowing to be murdered.
    I never said abortion was ok. But limiting them is a lot better than not limiting them, is it not? And your standard of qualification is not one I accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrckBrln View Post
    I never said abortion was ok. But limiting them is a lot better than not limiting them, is it not? And your standard of qualification is not one I accept.
    I can't vote for someone that supports murder. It is the ultimate in child abuse. You can vote for someone that supports the right to abuse babies if you want to. But I can't.

    Protecting babies is such a basic value, that if one doesn't get that right, they are not qualified to be in authority because authority is definitely about protection of the innocent. One of the first things that Obama did when he got into office was allow embryo research. So much for limiting the death of the unborn.
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