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    "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    With the understanding that the following scriptures will be fulfilled at judgment day, after the millenium,
    should we or Israel expect to inherit the promised land before that time?

    Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
    Ezek 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

    Is 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for Thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

    Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    God bless you!

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    With the understanding that the following scriptures will be fulfilled at judgment day, after the millenium,
    should we or Israel expect to inherit the promised land before that time?

    Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
    Ezek 37:13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

    Is 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for Thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

    Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
    Ezekiel 37 isn't a literal resurrection prophecy; it is in a passage that is eluding to the upcoming 1st advent of Christ to bring life to the people; to give life to those dead in sin...and uses the metaphor of resurrecting people to show this change from death to life.

    Is 26 and Dan 12 are literal resurrection prophecies; and they will be fulfilled at the Second Advent when Christ Appears; resurrecting all mankind to face the final judgment; with the faithful being forever united with Him in the New Jerusalem free of the curse of sin and death; and the wicked being removed from His presence into the Lake of Fire forevermore.

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by David Taylor View Post
    Ezekiel 37 isn't a literal resurrection prophecy; it is in a passage that is eluding to the upcoming 1st advent of Christ to bring life to the people; to give life to those dead in sin...and uses the metaphor of resurrecting people to show this change from death to life.

    Is 26 and Dan 12 are literal resurrection prophecies; and they will be fulfilled at the Second Advent when Christ Appears; resurrecting all mankind to face the final judgment; with the faithful being forever united with Him in the New Jerusalem free of the curse of sin and death; and the wicked being removed from His presence into the Lake of Fire forevermore.
    Thank you David,

    So with that in mind, should we or Israel expect to inherit the promised land before that time?

    Jn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
    Jn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    Thank you David,

    So with that in mind, should we or Israel expect to inherit the promised land before that time?

    Jn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
    Jn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

    The promised land is heaven, the country that Abraham longed for.

    We inherit Heaven when Christ returns, and severs the wicked from among the just, and Heaven actually comes down to the new curse, sin, death-free Earth in the form of the New Jerusalem.

    That's when the redeemed of all tribes, tongues, and nations inherit the promised land.

    Race or nationality has nothing to do with it.

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by David Taylor View Post
    The promised land is heaven, the country that Abraham longed for.

    We inherit Heaven when Christ returns, and severs the wicked from among the just, and Heaven actually comes down to the new curse, sin, death-free Earth in the form of the New Jerusalem.

    That's when the redeemed of all tribes, tongues, and nations inherit the promised land.

    Race or nationality has nothing to do with it.
    Thanks David,

    That is why I asked about this scripture regarding the land of Israel that God promised.

    Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    Thanks David,

    That is why I asked about this scripture regarding the land of Israel that God promised.

    Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

    Firstfruits
    Two things are being discussed in Ezekiel 37. The prior chapters had been discussing the Babylonian captivity, and the exile; and the promise to return back from Babylon into the land of Israel. Chapter 37 segways into a new topic of the coming of Messiah to bring life.

    So what you have are a bunch of people in captivity in Babylon; seeking to be release and return to Israel; as well as being given the visions and promises of hope of the upcoming Messiah and the Life that He will bring to them.

    By the time Jesus incarnated and arrived, the Jews had returned from Babylon to the land of Israel, and Jesus showed up saying things like this.....


    Matthew 4:16 "The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. "

    John 5:24 "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. "

    John 10:10 "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

    John 11:25 "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by David Taylor View Post
    Two things are being discussed in Ezekiel 37. The prior chapters had been discussing the Babylonian captivity, and the exile; and the promise to return back from Babylon into the land of Israel. Chapter 37 segways into a new topic of the coming of Messiah to bring life.

    So what you have are a bunch of people in captivity in Babylon; seeking to be release and return to Israel; as well as being given the visions and promises of hope of the upcoming Messiah and the Life that He will bring to them.

    By the time Jesus incarnated and arrived, the Jews had returned from Babylon to the land of Israel, and Jesus showed up saying things like this.....


    Matthew 4:16 "The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. "

    John 5:24 "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. "

    John 10:10 "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

    John 11:25 "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
    Thanks David,

    With regards to Jesus return and the gathering of Israel, would you agree that it would be when the dead are raised as in the scripture given?

    Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

    Israel is the land that God will set the king/shepherd over Israel.

    Ezek 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

    Ezek 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

    God bless you!

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
    Fulfillment:
    John 5:24 "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. "

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    Ezek 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

    Ezek 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
    Fulfillment:
    John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. "

    Ephesians 2:13 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord"

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by David Taylor View Post
    Fulfillment:
    John 5:24 "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. "



    Fulfillment:
    John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. "

    Ephesians 2:13 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord"
    So have they come into the land of Israel,and has the king been set over them?

    Is the land of Israel not the new Jerusalem which comes down out of heaven?

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    So have they come into the land of Israel,and has the king been set over them?

    Is the land of Israel not the new Jerusalem which comes down out of heaven?

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    New Jerusalem is ONLY the city which is described 1500 furlongs ect..... this specific sized city is on a new earth which is bigger. The church lives in the city while Israel lives outside the city on the new earth ie the promised land

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by ross3421 View Post
    New Jerusalem is ONLY the city which is described 1500 furlongs ect..... this specific sized city is on a new earth which is bigger. The church lives in the city while Israel lives outside the city on the new earth ie the promised land
    If that is the case then in which city will God's tabernacle be with man for evermore?

    God said when the new is established the former will not be remembered.

    Ezek 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    Ezek 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

    Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    If that is the case then in which city will God's tabernacle be with man for evermore?

    God said when the new is established the former will not be remembered.

    Ezek 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    Ezek 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

    Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

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    The tabernacle is the city whereby there will be some which will come into through gates...... the city will be in the midst surrounded by the 12 tribes

    12 gates - 12 tribes

    Re 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

    Re 21:24 and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    Re 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    Re 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.


    Eze 48:31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.
    Eze 48:32 And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan.
    Eze 48:33 And at the south side four thousand and five hundred measures: and three gates; one gate of Simeon, one gate of Issachar, one gate of Zebulun.
    Eze 48:34 At the west side four thousand and five hundred, with their three gates; one gate of Gad, one gate of Asher, one gate of Naphtali.
    Eze 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross3421 View Post
    The tabernacle is the city whereby there will be some which will come into through gates...... the city will be in the midst surrounded by the 12 tribes

    12 gates - 12 tribes

    Re 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

    Re 21:24 and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    Re 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    Re 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.


    Eze 48:31 And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.
    Eze 48:32 And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan.
    Eze 48:33 And at the south side four thousand and five hundred measures: and three gates; one gate of Simeon, one gate of Issachar, one gate of Zebulun.
    Eze 48:34 At the west side four thousand and five hundred, with their three gates; one gate of Gad, one gate of Asher, one gate of Naphtali.
    Eze 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.
    According to the following you either belong inside or outside.

    Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

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    Re: "When I Have Opened Your Graves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Firstfruits View Post
    According to the following you either belong inside or outside.

    Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

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    So then the new earth is the same size of the city?

    Why do you think there are gates into the city? The city is not blocked in, there will people people going to and fro.

    Re 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    Re 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
    Re 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

    Re 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    Re 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    Those without are meaning they cannot enter thru the gates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross3421 View Post
    So then the new earth is the same size of the city?

    Why do you think there are gates into the city? The city is not blocked in, there will people people going to and fro.

    Re 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    Re 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
    Re 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

    Re 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    Re 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    Those without are meaning they cannot enter thru the gates.
    When God creates the new earth/Jerusalem, the former earth shall not exist.

    Is 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

    Is 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

    Is 65:18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
    Is 65:19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

    The scripture says that there is only one way into new Jerusalem, that is by having your name in the book of life.

    Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
    Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

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