Three Arguments Against God. Please Refute.

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This is a year-old thread,,, the OP has not been here since they opened the thread

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Hello ChristOsterone

I will give these questions a go.

1. If god wanted you to believe he could simply manifest proof. But he does not. Christians say this is because it is a test of faith. Why, I ask, would god set up a test to ensure that only those who believe in something with little or no rational evidence would be able to get into heaven? The only possible answer I can think of is that he set up this gullibility filter to ensure that heaven is only populated by those he can easily control, who can't think for themselves or don't possess the analytical mind to question him, if he was really evil. What kind of god would want a heaven filled with sycophants? If we really were made in his image, the answer to that is "A very insecure one."

This question seem to come from a base that assumes belief in Gods existence is the main focus of making people believe God. God in times past did manifest Himself. But this was during the times He was working to bring into the world the knowledge of his will for His creation. The important think id Gods will. God wants His will (his message) to be the moving factor in causing those who agree with His will or those who are convinced by His message to come to have trust in Him so that they can be justifiably saved.

So it is not so much a "test" in faith that God exists.. It is a Test in what each person believes is good and what they believe is bad. It is a Test in finding out who is too proud to acknowledge the truth of God and who is able to humble themselves towards God by being convinced by the truth of God.

2. In the bible, a king orders every male child to be killed. Why is there no documentation of this outside of the gospels? Seems like the kind of thing someone might write about. "Dear diary; today I have to murder all my sons...."

Who controlled the media at the time? Who wrote the history? Why the kings did. As for any local righting "dear diary: stuff. firstly it would have been recorded on the most basic of perishable media and secondly the entire nation of Judea was destroyed and it's people massacred and exiled during the war that occurred after the times of Jesus. The only accounts that survived where in the hands of the Christs who recorded it and survived the destruction. It is conceivable that most of the people of Bethlehem where killed in the years of the war with the roman forces.

3. The burden of proof is, of course, on the claim. Do you have any I can not refute?

This is not a question.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

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The proof I have is that Jesus was raised from the dead. His life made a change in mine.
I wonder if the OP is still alive?

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This is a year-old thread,,, the OP has not been here since they opened the thread

I need to start looking at the post dates.

Whoever dug this one up, bravo, good job. Ya got me.

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[awestruckchild]

This is a year-old thread,,, the OP has not been here since they opened the thread

Makes you wonder then if it is here for us for the purpose of examination, like maybe God wants us to examine our responses and see if maybe we can alter or better our approach for the next time. Maybe we bristle at these types of posts and it causes our responses to come across too harshly and haughtily. This is definitely a room that you want to think carefully about your responses and how you respond and even if you dare to be the one to respond. You don't want to be found replying without the Holy Spirit and having to answer to Him one day about the damage you may have done. Just a thought.