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    God's Breach of Promise

    Numbers, Chapter 14, 34: After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

    The Lord taught me along time ago that the teachings of men are not the teachings of God.

    The Lord will breach his promise if the conditions to which he set are not met.

    When someone tells me that God can't do this or God will not do that...I let it go in one ear and out the other.

    Yours truly,
    GodisGreat2me

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    Re: God's Breach of Promise

    That's a pretty careless way to handle a conversation with someone.

    Rather than automatically "let it go in one ear and out the other", why not first ask the person why they are saying God can't or won't do something?

    It is true that God is omnipotent, and can do all things.
    It is true that with God, all things are possible.

    However, omnipotence does have it's limitations; as God Himself imposes upon it.

    God will never do something that is against His own nature and will.

    God will never sin.

    God will never act unjustly.

    God will never act against His own truth and His own Word.

    So it is quite possible that someone might tell you God can't do sew-in-sew, or God won't do sew-in-sew...because the sew-in-sew topic being discussed is something that would contradict God's nature and will.

    God cannot give a prophetic word to someone today that would conflict with prior truth God has already given. He cannot give a prophetic word to someone saying that Jesus was actually born in Burbank, California, not in Bethlehem of Judea, which Micah and the Gospels have already attested to.

    That is an example of something God cannot and will not do. It contradicts Himself and His absolute truthful nature.

    So you really can't make a carte-blanche statement saying if someone says God can't or won't do something, you must dismiss it directly out of hand. The context of the point being discussed must be compared to what God has already revealed and presented as truth.

    The bible is a true and trustworthy as a revelation from God.
    If and when God chooses to do other divine revelations to mankind, they will always conform with the prior truth He has given us.

    One can never take something they personally perceive as a revelation from God, and hold to it as truth, if it conflicts and contradicts against the Word of God He's already given us through the Bible. That ultimately proves that the personal revelation was not from God in the first place, but rather from an unseen force of darkness parading as God to mislead and deceive.

    Always be mindful of that.

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    That's a pretty careless way to handle a conversation with someone.
    MY REPLY: When I find you walking in my shoes then I will value your opinion of how I handle my conversations with someone.

    Rather than automatically "let it go in one ear and out the other", why not first ask the person why they are saying God can't or won't do something?
    MY REPLY: Because I already know what their reply will be.

    It is true that God is omnipotent, and can do all things.
    It is true that with God, all things are possible.
    However, omnipotence does have it's limitations; as God Himself imposes upon it.
    MY REPLY: If omnipotence is limited then it is not omnipotence. The only limitations imposed upon God is the ones you or others put upon him in your beliefs.

    God will never do something that is against His own nature and will.
    MY REPLY: I can easily disprove this.

    God will never sin.
    MY REPLY: That is because nothing that God does is a sin.

    God will never act unjustly.
    MY REPLY: There are others that will disagree with you on this as for me I do not care, I am not wise enough or capable to judge God.

    God will never act against His own truth and His own Word.
    MY REPLY: Here again this does not apply to me because I believe every thing God tells me.

    So it is quite possible that someone might tell you God can't do sew-in-sew, or God won't do sew-in-sew...because the sew-in-sew topic being discussed is something that would contradict God's nature and will.
    MY REPLY: Are you quite possibly that someone?

    God cannot give a prophetic word to someone today that would conflict with prior truth God has already given. He cannot give a prophetic word to someone saying that Jesus was actually born in Burbank, California, not in Bethlehem of Judea, which Micah and the Gospels have already attested to.
    MY REPLY: Did God tell you that?

    That is an example of something God cannot and will not do. It contradicts Himself and His absolute truthful nature.
    MY REPLY: This is an example of the way you believe God to be or not to be.

    So you really can't make a carte-blanche statement saying if someone says God can't or won't do something, you must dismiss it directly out of hand. The context of the point being discussed must be compared to what God has already revealed and presented as truth.
    MY REPLY: I already have and do all the time, especially when they are incorrect.

    The bible is a true and trustworthy as a revelation from God.
    If and when God chooses to do other divine revelations to mankind, they will always conform with the prior truth He has given us.
    MY REPLY: The Bible is just a book with other books written by men who some say they were inspired by God. To which was created around the 1600's by a group of men commistioned by King James of England.

    One can never take something they personally perceive as a revelation from God, and hold to it as truth, if it conflicts and contradicts against the Word of God He's already given us through the Bible. That ultimately proves that the personal revelation was not from God in the first place, but rather from an unseen force of darkness parading as God to mislead and deceive.
    MY REPLY: Here again you are stating your opinion as fact. To which means more to you than me.

    Always be mindful of that.
    MY REPLY: No thank you.

    Yours truly,
    GodIsgreat2me

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    Ezekiel, Chapter 14,9: And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

    So we can read here in this book in the old testament of the Bible,

    where God deceived.

    And then destroys.

    The teaching of men are not the teachings of God.

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    If someone came to me and said I am this or that from any religion, teach me what you know about God

    The first thing I would tell them is they have to forget what they had been previously taught.

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    Re: God's Breach of Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by GodIsGreat2me View Post
    Ezekiel, Chapter 14,9: And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

    So we can read here in this book in the old testament of the Bible,

    where God deceived.

    And then destroys.

    The teaching of men are not the teachings of God.
    GodIsGreat2me,

    You have totally misread this scripture (and I bet quite intentionally).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit View Post
    GodIsGreat2me,

    You have totally misread this scripture (and I bet quite intentionally).
    In a court of law the judge would say to you.

    Over ruled.

    hearsay is not proof.

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    The fact is

    THERE IT IS.

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    I will present the facts as they are.

    What you believe or do not believe or accept or do not accept

    is not in my control.

    Yours truly,
    GodIsGreat2me

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    Re: God's Breach of Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by GodIsGreat2me View Post
    In a court of law the judge would say to you.

    Over ruled.

    hearsay is not proof.
    Nor is heresy. I say it's time for us to heed Titus 3:10.

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    Re: God's Breach of Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by GodIsGreat2me View Post
    In a court of law the judge would say to you.

    Over ruled.

    hearsay is not proof.
    If you think that is hearsay, then you just proved your ignorance beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PneumaPsucheSoma View Post
    Nor is heresy. I say it's time for us to heed Titus 3:10.
    I'll second that.
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    Now Jehoshaphat had riches and honour in abundance, and joined affinity with Ahab.

    And after certain years he went down to Ahab to Samaria. And Ahab killed sheep and oxen for him in abundance, and for the people that he had with him, and persuaded him to go up with him to Ramothgilead.

    And Ahab king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat king of Judah, Wilt thou go with me to Ramothgilead? And he answered him, I am as thou art, and my people as thy people; and we will be with thee in the war.

    And Jehoshaphat said unto the king of Israel, Inquire, I pray thee, at the word of the LORD to day.

    Therefore the king of Israel gathered together of prophets four hundred men, and said unto them, Shall we go to Ramothgilead to battle, or shall I forbear? And they said, Go up; for God will deliver it into the king's hand.

    But Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a prophet of the LORD besides, that we might inquire of him?

    And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, by whom we may inquire of the LORD: but I hate him; for he never prophesied good unto me, but always evil: the same is Micaiah the son of Imla. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so.

    And the king of Israel called for one of his officers, and said, Fetch quickly Micaiah the son of Imla.

    And the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat king of Judah sat either of them on his throne, clothed in their robes, and they sat in a void place at the entering in of the gate of Samaria; and all the prophets prophesied before them.

    And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah had made him horns of iron, and said, Thus saith the LORD, With these thou shalt push Syria until they be consumed.

    And all the prophets prophesied so, saying, Go up to Ramothgilead, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king.

    And the messenger that went to call Micaiah spake to him, saying, Behold, the words of the prophets declare good to the king with one assent; let thy word therefore, I pray thee, be like one of theirs, and speak thou good.

    And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, even what my God saith, that will I speak.

    And when he was come to the king, the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go to Ramothgilead to battle, or shall I forbear? And he said, Go ye up, and prosper, and they shall be delivered into your hand.

    And the king said to him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou say nothing but the truth to me in the name of the LORD?

    Then he said, I did see all Israel scattered upon the mountains, as sheep that have no shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master; let them return therefore every man to his house in peace.

    And the king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would not prophesy good unto me, but evil?

    Again he said, Therefore hear the word of the LORD; I saw the LORD sitting upon his throne, and all the host of heaven standing on his right hand and on his left.

    And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

    Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?

    And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

    Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.

    Then Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah came near, and smote Micaiah upon the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee?

    And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see on that day when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself.

    Then the king of Israel said, Take ye Micaiah, and carry him back to Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king's son;

    And say, Thus saith the king, Put this fellow in the prison, and feed him with bread of affliction and with water of affliction, until I return in peace.

    And Micaiah said, If thou certainly return in peace, then hath not the LORD spoken by me. And he said, Hearken, all ye people.

    So the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah went up to Ramothgilead.

    And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, I will disguise myself, and will go to the battle; but put thou on thy robes. So the king of Israel disguised himself; and they went to the battle.

    Now the king of Syria had commanded the captains of the chariots that were with him, saying, Fight ye not with small or great, save only with the king of Israel.

    And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots saw Jehoshaphat, that they said, It is the king of Israel. Therefore they compassed about him to fight: but Jehoshaphat cried out, and the LORD helped him; and God moved them to depart from him.

    For it came to pass, that, when the captains of the chariots perceived that it was not the king of Israel, they turned back again from pursuing him.

    And a certain man drew a bow at a venture, and smote the king of Israel between the joints of the harness: therefore he said to his chariot man, Turn thine hand, that thou mayest carry me out of the host; for I am wounded.

    And the battle increased that day: howbeit the king of Israel stayed himself up in his chariot against the Syrians until the even: and about the time of the sun going down he died.

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    In this recorded history from a book in the Bible, we can clearly read where
    God sent a lying spirit to entice King Ahab.


    There are many many things that people are teaching now days to other people and proclaiming to be factual about God, Jesus and the Kingdom of God, the spiritual realm and anything else that pertains to the unknown that...is just not true.

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    Re: God's Breach of Promise

    Quote Originally Posted by GodIsGreat2me View Post
    In this recorded history from a book in the Bible, we can clearly read where
    God sent a lying spirit to entice King Ahab.


    There are many many things that people are teaching now days to other people and proclaiming to be factual about God, Jesus and the Kingdom of God, the spiritual realm and anything else that pertains to the unknown that...is just not true.
    I think the irony of that last statement is so thick that it requires pointing out.
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