On whom will God have mercy?

[episkopos]

Here's an exercise..

God will have mercy on whoever ______

Options:
1. He wills
2. agrees with me.
3. attends our church
4. got himself saved
5. said the sinner's prayer
6. is evangelical
7. voted republican
8. is not from the Middle East

[episkopos]

Luke 18:14 "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."



Justified means the same to be deemed righteous.

Righteousness and holiness however, are not the same.

The OT is about righteousness (together with a ceremonial holiness)

The NT is the holiness of a divine life in Christ SUPERIMPOSED on a righteous character.

Contrary to popular belief holiness is not a reward for wickedness.

Righteousness takes root in us when we are unwilling that anyone else should needlessly suffer. Holiness takes hold of us when we are willing to suffer at the hands of anyone.

[dagar]

Here's an exercise..

God will have mercy on whoever ______

Options:
1. He wills
2. agrees with me.
3. attends our church
4. got himself saved
5. said the sinner's prayer
6. is evangelical
7. voted republican
8. is not from the Middle East

*9. Psa 33:18, 22

[dagar]

Luke 18:14 "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."



Justified means the same to be deemed righteous.

No it does not.

Righteousness takes root in us when we are unwilling that anyone else should needlessly suffer. Holiness takes hold of us when we are willing to suffer at the hands of anyone.

huh?

[episkopos]

holy [ˈhəʊlɪ]
adj holier, holiest
1. of, relating to, or associated with God or a deity; sacred
2. endowed or invested with extreme purity or sublimity


just 1 (jst)
adj.
1. Honorable and fair in one's dealings and actions: a just ruler. See Synonyms at fair1.
2. Consistent with what is morally right; righteous: a just cause.
3. Properly due or merited: just deserts.
4. Law Valid within the law; lawful: just claims.
5. Suitable or proper in nature; fitting: a just touch of solemnity.
6. Based on fact or sound reason; well-founded: a just appraisal.

The current state of apostasy and defeat in the nodern church is in part due to the fact that the above words (definitions provided) are no longer understood.

[Fenris]

The answer is definitely 2. agrees with me.

[episkopos]

The answer is definitely 2. agrees with me.

Good answer!

[Bandit]

On whom will God have mercy?
...

Question:

O Lord, who may abide in Your tent?
Who may dwell on Your holy hill?

Answer:

He who walks with integrity, and works righteousness,
And speaks truth in his heart.
He does not slander with his tongue,
Nor does evil to his neighbor,
Nor takes up a reproach against his friend;
In whose eyes a reprobate is despised,
But who honors those who fear the Lord;
He swears to his own hurt and does not change;
He does not put out his money at interest,
Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent.
He who does these things will never be shaken.

Psalm 15



He has shown you, O man, what is good;
And what does the Lord require of you?
But to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8

[dagar]

just 1 (jst)
adj.
1. Honorable and fair in one's dealings and actions: a just ruler. See Synonyms at fair1.
2. Consistent with what is morally right; righteous: a just cause.
3. Properly due or merited: just deserts.
4. Law Valid within the law; lawful: just claims.
5. Suitable or proper in nature; fitting: a just touch of solemnity.
6. Based on fact or sound reason; well-founded: a just appraisal.

The current state of apostasy and defeat in the nodern church is in part due to the fact that the above words (definitions provided) are no longer understood.

With messed up definitions like that what do you expect?

[Mark F]

Luke 18:14 "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."



Justified means the same to be deemed righteous.

Romans 3:21-26
21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

As Paul explains that we are justified by faith in Christ, He then treats us as righteous because we are in Christ. We aren't made righteous, otherwise we wouldn't sin right?

[episkopos]

With messed up definitions like that what do you expect?

A dictionary is NOT a tool used to indoctrinate people. A pulpit CAN be so used. A definition is just that. BTW in other languages, the word for "righteous" and "just" are the same.

Some of these languages include those used to write the bible...both Hebrew and Greek. No need to take my word for it.

[episkopos]

Question:

O Lord, who may abide in Your tent?
Who may dwell on Your holy hill?

Answer:

He who walks with integrity, and works righteousness,
And speaks truth in his heart.
He does not slander with his tongue,
Nor does evil to his neighbor,
Nor takes up a reproach against his friend;
In whose eyes a reprobate is despised,
But who honors those who fear the Lord;
He swears to his own hurt and does not change;
He does not put out his money at interest,
Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent.
He who does these things will never be shaken.

Psalm 15



He has shown you, O man, what is good;
And what does the Lord require of you?
But to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

Micah 6:8

Very good! Here we see character qualities...similar to the qualities stated by Jesus in the sermon on the mount.

Now, I ask, are these conditions thrown away through a "decision" for Christ?

[Bandit]

Very good! Here we see character qualities...similar to the qualities stated by Jesus in the sermon on the mount.

Now, I ask, are these conditions thrown away through a "decision" for Christ?

No, these things are not 'thrown away' through a "decision" for Christ; they are embraced as truth. (As you probably could have guessed, I do not believe in "cheap grace".)

[WSGAC]

For God has consigned all men over to disobedience so that he might have mercy on all. Romans 11:32

[dagar]

A dictionary is NOT a tool used to indoctrinate people. A pulpit CAN be so used. A definition is just that. BTW in other languages, the word for "righteous" and "just" are the same.

Some of these languages include those used to write the bible...both Hebrew and Greek. No need to take my word for it.

Scripture should not be interpreted based on man's definitions. Justified is a legal term. You are guilty but there is no evidence. You are justified but not righteous. Righteousness is imputed to us by faith but we are not righteous. We are justified by the Judge because the blood has taken away our sin so there is no evidence against us. We still know we are guilty and not righteous. The lack of evidence doesn't change that. No need to take my word for it. Read your Bible using God's definitions, not mans.

Just now seeing you said "deemed righteous". Sorry.