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Thread: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by XFRODOBAGGINSX View Post
    I not really sure what you're asking me, but if you're asking me if people are accepting Christ, simply look at the poll above. 2 have accepted Christ so far here. Praise God.
    Hate to disappoint you, but I think I know every single person that has posted in this thread. I seriously doubt that any that has answered that poll on this forum is stating that they were not a Christian before you posted the thread.

    I'm sure the Admins could check the ISPs on the respondents to the poll, just to confirm.
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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Public witness matters. Jesus Himself said "if you deny Me before men, I will deny you before the Father."

    That's serious business, because the Word of God states that "in the mouth of two or three witnesses, everything shall be established." Stated by a God who never changes. Jesus Himself said that "where two or three are gathered in my name, I am in their midst". See the continuance of that same principle? I hope you do.

    We confess with our mouth that "Jesus is Lord". Before others. Because God places us in a Body of believers who are joined with us in faith.

    That's why I said you're only giving people part of the Gospel. It's not just about a prayer. Confession of sin is important. Believing in Jesus matters. Believing that He was raised from the dead is absolutely crucial, and turning to Him in faith. But then there has to happen a public confession. That's the other side of the coin.

    The "attending Bible believing church" serves that purpose of a) public witness and b) being able to be discipled by others stronger and mature in their faith. So that one can be baptized (also happening before others) and discipled and encouraged and supported, and grow up together with the rest of His Body into the unity of the Spirit.

    So please, please please, for the love of God, guide people into the whole truth, and not just part of it. Thank you.
    Even so, come Lord Jesus!

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    Hate to disappoint you, but I think I know every single person that has posted in this thread. I seriously doubt that any that has answered that poll on this forum is stating that they were not a Christian before you posted the thread.

    I'm sure the Admins could check the ISPs on the respondents to the poll, just to confirm.
    The poll says otherwise. Frankly, it doesn't matter what you or I think, it matters what they think and what God says.

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Dani H View Post
    Public witness matters. Jesus Himself said "if you deny Me before men, I will deny you before the Father."

    That's serious business, because the Word of God states that "in the mouth of two or three witnesses, everything shall be established." Stated by a God who never changes. Jesus Himself said that "where two or three are gathered in my name, I am in their midst". See the continuance of that same principle? I hope you do.

    We confess with our mouth that "Jesus is Lord". Before others. Because God places us in a Body of believers who are joined with us in faith.


    The prayer "Confesses with your mouth that Jesus is Lord. Salvation is an individual choice, not a corprate one.

    That's why I said you're only giving people part of the Gospel. It's not just about a prayer. Confession of sin is important. Believing in Jesus matters. Believing that He was raised from the dead is absolutely crucial, and turning to Him in faith. But then there has to happen a public confession. That's the other side of the coin.

    The prayer confesses that you are a sinner. By praying the prayer they ARE believing in Jesus, otherwise, they wouldn't pray it. The prayer does confess that Jesus Christ died and rose from the dead and IS turning to Him in faith. I agree there should be public profession, but is not required for salvation, however, the poll gives a chance to admit that they prayed the prayer. Baptism is a public profession of faith AFTER salvation. A truly saved person would certainly want to obey Jesus's commands. You've pretty much made my case for me.

    The "attending Bible believing church" serves that purpose of a) public witness and b) being able to be discipled by others stronger and mature in their faith. So that one can be baptized (also happening before others) and discipled and encouraged and supported, and grow up together with the rest of His Body into the unity of the Spirit.

    Then you should be glad that I included it in the post. Did you even read it? or are you just criticizing me for the sake of doing so?

    So please, please please, for the love of God, guide people into the whole truth, and not just part of it. Thank you.

    That's what I'm doing. I'd like to ask, how many people have you led to Christ this year? If you're truly on God's side, you should be Supporting those sharing the gospel, not publically criticizing them. If you want to do that you should send a private message. Why would you want to do anything to hinder the gospel if you are truly a Child of God?




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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    You should indeed answer your last question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    You should indeed answer your last question.
    If you must know it's many. I asked the question because usually those who hinder the gospel and call themselves Christian, usually don't lead anyone to the Lord themselves. They just like to criticize what others are doing either because they are lazy or because they are true Born Again Christians themselves and are offended by the gospel. Only Born Again Christians are the true Christians.

    Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


    Do you know what it means to be born again?

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by XFRODOBAGGINSX View Post
    ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

    There are some things that you should know:


    1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:


    Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"


    Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"


    This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

    2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:


    Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

    Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."


    Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

    3. If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.


    Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”


    Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."


    You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

    Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

    DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?

    ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?


    4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:

    "Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

    If you prayed that prayer to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

    Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.


    I don't think anyone should be sure if they are going to heaven, we don't judge ourselves, god does.
    Also praying that prayer doesn't guarantee you a spot in heaven, it takes commitment, dedication, sacrifice, the need to love and serve god etc. Much more than a prayer, although I admire you for reaching out to people you might of changed a life today who knows.
    Every temptation is of the devil, and every sin leads to death.

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter121 View Post
    I don't think anyone should be sure if they are going to heaven, we don't judge ourselves, god does.
    Also praying that prayer doesn't guarantee you a spot in heaven, it takes commitment, dedication, sacrifice, the need to love and serve god etc. Much more than a prayer, although I admire you for reaching out to people you might of changed a life today who knows.
    What a wonderful description of salvation by works.

    Lord be merciful to me a sinner. Jesus said it of the man in the temple.

    For the cause of Christ
    Roger

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by XFRODOBAGGINSX View Post


    Do you know what it means to be born again?
    Perhaps you can explain it to me.
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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    This oughta get good....
    For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived? ~ Deuteronomy 5:26

    If you're not prepared to risk your very life for your "enemy" you have no right to speak to him of love. ~ Daughter

    Many say they are called... but I am pretty convinced that with many of them it was the wrong number. ~ Project Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    Hate to disappoint you, but I think I know every single person that has posted in this thread. I seriously doubt that any that has answered that poll on this forum is stating that they were not a Christian before you posted the thread.

    I'm sure the Admins could check the ISPs on the respondents to the poll, just to confirm.

    I can read a poll and I'm pretty sure that you can too. Why are you so concerned if someone enters into God's salvation?

    Here's what the bible says about those who hinder others from coming to Christ's Salvation:

    Lu 11:52 "Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered."

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    Perhaps you can explain it to me.
    Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."
    Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?"
    Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
    "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    To be born again is not a Physical event. It is a Spiritual event. Just as you were born physically, the very moment that you accept Jesus Christ into your heart as Lord and Savior of your life, LITERALLY in that instant, God performs a miracle by giving you a new part of you, a new Spirit. He also puts His holy Spirit in you as well. The Spirit is the part of you can can LITERALLY communicate with God. That's how born again people can feel God's presence with them and communicate with Him and that's also why non-born again Christians cannot understand. So Born again Christians really do have a relationship with God. You MUST have that relationship to get to heaven.

    This is what Jesus will say to those who don't have that relationship with Him:

    Mt 7:21 ¶ "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
    "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
    "And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!

    You see, they are cast out and into hell because they weren't born again, they didn't have that true relationship with Jesus as Born Again Christians do. I DO know Him and you can too. It's not because I'm special, it's just because I was WILLING to humble myself before God and tell Him that I'm sorry for my evil deeds and accept His Son Jesus as my Lord and Savior, believing that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for me.

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    Where does the Bible say that I have to "accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    Where does the Bible say that I have to "accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior"?
    Ro 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
    For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    1Jo 5:12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

    Joh 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

    Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Don't see anything about accepting anything.

    And what about being sorry for evil deeds? Doesn't say anything about that either.

    If an unbeliever is dead to spiritual things why would I be sorry for evil deeds?
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