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    Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    NEW YORK (JTA) – President Obama reportedly urged Jewish communal leaders to speak to their friends and colleagues in Israel and to “search your souls” over Israel's seriousness about making peace.
    I'm sorry, but this is just asinine.

    When has he called on Fatah/Hamas/Hizbullah/Syria/Iran to "search their souls" over their seriousness to make peace? Why does he put the onus for the lack of peace on the only free country in the region?

    This man has a seriously warped worldview.
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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    This photo is from an anti-Israel rally in Gaza.



    Gee, do you think these guys should search their souls about their seriousness to make peace?

    How about these guys?

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    A comic in the Palestinian Authority’s official daily newspaper-



    Ariel Sharon is shown sitting in a large cup overflowing with blood.

    Any soul-searching necessary?
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    Another gem from the PA newspapers-

    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    This photo is from an anti-Israel rally in Gaza.



    Gee, do you think these guys should search their souls about their seriousness to make peace?

    How about these guys?

    Where did the Klan get the rocket condom?

    Evil, twisted, freaky lunatics. Don't you have to have a soul to search it? Why don't we instead do as the Psalmist did and ask God to search it???
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    Why does the world even listen to obama let alone take him seriously???
    If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    President Obama Addresses Muslim World in Cairo
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060401117.html
    Palestinians must abandon violence. Resistance through violence and killing is wrong and does not succeed. For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation. But it was not violence that won full and equal rights. It was a peaceful and determined insistence upon the ideals at the center of America's founding. This same story can be told by people from South Africa to South Asia; from Eastern Europe to Indonesia. It's a story with a simple truth: that violence is a dead end. It is a sign of neither courage nor power to shoot rockets at sleeping children, or to blow up old women on a bus. That is not how moral authority is claimed; that is how it is surrendered.

    Now is the time for Palestinians to focus on what they can build. The Palestinian Authority must develop its capacity to govern, with institutions that serve the needs of its people. Hamas does have support among some Palestinians, but they also have responsibilities. To play a role in fulfilling Palestinian aspirations, and to unify the Palestinian people, Hamas must put an end to violence, recognize past agreements, and recognize Israel's right to exist.

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Another gem from the PA newspapers-

    Fenris, don't you understand yet? You're just a stupid dirty Jew dog. If your people were wiped off the face of the earth the Muslims would finally be a peaceful lot. It's all your fault.

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mighty Sword View Post
    Why does the world even listen to obama let alone take him seriously???

    Wait.......the world take's him seriously????
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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    I haven't been in the Army since 2002 and the only reason I can see at the moment for me personally to go back to war would be to defend Israel.
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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    I'm sorry, but this is just asinine.

    When has he called on Fatah/Hamas/Hizbullah/Syria/Iran to "search their souls" over their seriousness to make peace? Why does he put the onus for the lack of peace on the only free country in the region?

    This man has a seriously warped worldview.
    I totally agree with you.......but I've been reading a book and it kind of made me go "hmmm" (Arsenio Hall)

    Maybe....Maybe we are just trying to keep Israel in her land by pacifying the enemy or shall I say pretending to give the enemy what they want. IN the process we save the world, because if war breaks out in the middle east with all that oil in the middle east, it could seriously screw up our entire world economy; thereby weakening every non-islamic govt. Knowing that the muslim nations would rather risk their lives for the sake of allah, and advancing islam, they really don't care what it does the the worldwide economy. IN fact they would love to see it collapse because that would put them on equal footing with us, and in time through a series of suicide bombs they would fulfill their ultimate desire...islamasize the whole world.

    As much as I can't stand what I see or hear the govt doing, there's a lot that we don't know about under the surface, and a lot of ways that I'm sure it's being handled, including putting on a show, even if we don't like the "show" we see.

    That said, I do have my doubts that Obama and his admin is actually on our side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saved7 View Post
    I totally agree with you.......but I've been reading a book and it kind of made me go "hmmm" (Arsenio Hall)

    Maybe....Maybe we are just trying to keep Israel in her land by pacifying the enemy or shall I say pretending to give the enemy what they want. IN the process we save the world, because if war breaks out in the middle east with all that oil in the middle east, it could seriously screw up our entire world economy; thereby weakening every non-islamic govt. Knowing that the muslim nations would rather risk their lives for the sake of allah, and advancing islam, they really don't care what it does the the worldwide economy. IN fact they would love to see it collapse because that would put them on equal footing with us, and in time through a series of suicide bombs they would fulfill their ultimate desire...islamasize the whole world.

    As much as I can't stand what I see or hear the govt doing, there's a lot that we don't know about under the surface, and a lot of ways that I'm sure it's being handled, including putting on a show, even if we don't like the "show" we see.

    That said, I do have my doubts that Obama and his admin is actually on our side.
    Ah yes the fated U.S government, such a predictament.

    Your government steps up to be a leading nation among the world, they cant possibly please everyone, its easier to displease it own "children" than other peoples of the world because while your government is a worldwide leader it cant control or at least has alot less playing cards with other nations of the world.
    So a sacrifice of reputation from its own people is alot easier to maintain than a sacrifice to another people/peoples
    Its really a losing situation no matter what regard it takes.
    sacrifice popularity within your own people or sacrifice popularity with some nations or the other nations which all have thier value and its in a situation where its dug itself so far into the rest of the world the u.s cant just step out from the major picture.

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    Quote Originally Posted by Vhayes View Post
    President Obama Addresses Muslim World in Cairo
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...060401117.html
    This speech has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It's generally quite upbeat about Islam and Muslims. He states such laughable platitudes as "Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance" which is completely untrue. Noplace in this speech does he accuse Muslims of being unserious about seeking peace, as he accuses Israelis.

    The man has a very warped view of reality. Your carrying water for him does nothing to change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior4God View Post
    Fenris, don't you understand yet? You're just a stupid dirty Jew dog. If your people were wiped off the face of the earth the Muslims would finally be a peaceful lot. It's all your fault.
    The sad thing is, many people actually believe that.

    I've heard Jews articulate that if the world doesn't have enough room for a tiny Jewish state, maybe it doesn't deserve to exist at all. Generally I can soar above such bitterness, but not always.
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

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    Re: Obama: Israelis should soul-search about seriousness on peace

    The Palestinians refuse to even meet with the Israelis to discuss anything. Which side is not "serious about peace" again?
    Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."

    Jeremiah 31:9

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