The "Lie"

[DurbanDude]

I believe the "lie" is the idea that crept into many churches in the past 150 years or so, that anyone would survive once Jesus comes for the church.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2Th 2:11-12)

The lie is directly related to the coming of the lawless one just before the second coming. You seem to be applying it to those who believe in a populated millenium??? You are way off line here, the scripture says nothing like what you are saying:

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

[Raybob]

So because I believe in a millenium, you think I am believing a lie, and will be damned, and have pleasure in unrighteousness?
Is this really what you are saying? I thought that the truth is that Jesus died for our sins, and if we believe in and rely on Jesus we are saved.

The lie and the strong delusion you are referring to are related to tribulation events when people are deceived away from the gospel truth, and does not relate to those who believe the gospel and yet believe in a millenium.

Believing it is one thing. To belive it and think that you can willfully sin, thinking you'll always have a second chance if you miss the rapture, to me, is a problem.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(Heb 10:26)

[DurbanDude]

Believing it is one thing. To belive it and think that you can willfully sin, thinking you'll always have a second chance if you miss the rapture, to me, is a problem.

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(Heb 10:26)

It is possible that some who believe in a millenium also have the incorrect doctrine that it is some sort of second chance. And maybe if they have that incorrect belief, and also an immature attitude to their faith, they may use it as a license to sin. Maybe you were like that, but I don'tthink everyone who has an incorrect millenial belief would respond in that way.

I believe in a millenium, but I believe those mortal survivors will never have a chance of immortality like the resurrected believers. They have therefore missed out, so what you are saying wouldn't apply to me either.