Sorry, there is not one verse in the new testament promoting war. Jesus was anti war. These actions are wrong!
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Sorry, there is not one verse in the new testament promoting war. Jesus was anti war. These actions are wrong!
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If Jesus is anti-war, then someone better tell him about the Book of Revelation....
Jesus is not "anti-war". Nor is he "pro-war".
Jesus established governments in this world. (Romans 13) They "wield the sword" for a purpose that is ordained by God.
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Jesus was against war, killing, violence. These wars are not christian in any sense of the word.
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Exodus 15:3 "The Lord is a man of war..."
Or is that someone else?
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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The entire book of Revelation is a massive war.
Turning over the money changers tables wasn't exactly a Peace Conference.
Selective reading is not good on either end of the spectrum.
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How about a NEW TESTAMENT verse please?Originally Posted by Fenris
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That must be that mean, angry, Old Testament "Lord," not Jesus. You should be OK with that...
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2 Chronicles 7:15-16
Romans 13: 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
When wrongdoers are doing wrong, God uses Ministers of God to destroy them. These obedient servants bring God's wrath to those evil doers.
When God's hand is moved and these avengers are sent forward into the world to kill the evildoers... the term "war" can be used. However, not all conflict is of God, so not all wars are of God's purpose. For example (opinion)... Libya is not following God's will in doing what they are doing. Some nations of the world are being used to STOP this wrongdoing. This is an example of Minister's of God stopping wrongdoing in the world. If the effort was just done COMPLETE and not hold back... then stopping the wrongdoers would be more effective. If God wants the wrongdoers dead, we have to do this effort with the will to follow through completely and kill them.
We can't say God does not "use" war for His purposes though... God has killed, is killing, and when Jesus returns... He'll do a ton of killing.
Read the Bible, it's all in there for your understanding. The problem is what not all Christians "accept" this truth about God.
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~Do not quench the Spirit ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:19~
~"So what hardship are you willing to endure, to see My will accomplished through you?"~
~Your relationship isn't knowing "ABOUT" GOD! Relationship is to "KNOW" GOD,
so that in the end and you stand before Him for the first time in heaven… HE KNOWS YOU~
~Do we, as Christians witness Jesus to the lost because we love Jesus? Or do we witness Jesus to the lost because we love them as Jesus loves them?~
~A prompting from God means that you are to DO. Thinking, causes you to... NOT DO!~
~Being on the tall mountain is where "you" go, to meet with God. Being in the deep valley is where "God" goes, to meet with you!~
Deadpan Snarker
Wait, there's a NEW testament?
Has anyone told the Jews about this?
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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They're not the same dude?
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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We've been trying to keep it a secret, but hey, I guess the cat is out of the bag, now...Wait, there's a NEW testament?
Has anyone told the Jews about this?
"MISSION: To rescue Christians enslaved by manmade religion and to bring them to the freedom of Jesus."
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I've been keeping all these rules for nothing? Sigh...
Hear the word of the Lord, O nations, and declare it on the islands from afar, and say, "He Who scattered Israel will gather them together and watch them as a shepherd his flock."
Jeremiah 31:9
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slug1, Jesus preached forgivness. Do you really think he would want people to kill other people????????
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Just keep on keepin' them.
Then we can call you a legalist or a Pharisee. See? Just like MicroSoft...a free upgrade.
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He wouldn't have a problem with it if it was their job or in self-defense or in defense of others.
"MISSION: To rescue Christians enslaved by manmade religion and to bring them to the freedom of Jesus."
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