Whose doctrine is correct?

[ozell]

keck553;2674175]Because I believe mainstream Christiantiy is in the Word of God and within God's will.

mainstream christians keep the first day of the week as a holy convocation, the christians in the bible kept the 7th day of the week. just to start

each of us have access to God's Word and His Spirit and therefore a responsibility to listen to Him so we can correctly read and divide the word of God. We're not going to have the opportunity to point our finger at our local congregation and blame them for our failures.
God is a God of personal responsibility when it comes to these matters (IMHO).

Yet most christians listen to what the pastor and doctrine of the church in that order, then the word of God or reading of the bible may come in.

Quite a few Christians who get wound up in Messianic Judaism teach from the Talmud as doctrine

I deal with them is just as as I would a ROMAN Catholic, Protestant and the Orthodox I would tell either one show me your doctrine or denomination in the word of God?

end conversation!

[ozell]

keep in mind

Paul said we have another Jesus being taught

2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

this is after Jesus deaht and resurrection


Jesus said

we would have people coming in his name saying they are Jesus and decieve many

4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

this is end time Jesus was speaking of

where are these people? where is there organization?

who am I to watch for?

the big 3 has cornered the CHRISTIAN market

I am a christian, you are a christian who do we watch out for?

Roman Catholic
Protestant
Orthodox

these are the christian faiths

who is right?

who is teaching another Jesus?

[ozell]

You may consider the Sunday morning ritual then because it is nowhere taught or practiced in the Bible. That doesn't make comgregating on Sunday mornings false doctrine or false prophecy (to the ire of many I know).

who is right?

what does the word of God say concerning the day of worship?

[amazzin]

Hey Ozell....Please remember that this is a Protestant message board and we expect our wishes to be followed. If you need a reminder proceed to the rules page to familiarize yourself what this board is about

Thank You

[keck553]

mainstream christians keep the first day of the week as a holy convocation, the christians in the bible kept the 7th day of the week. just to start

Mainstream Christians congregate on Sunday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday..whatever. Where does Torah perscribe corporate gathering on Shabbat to gather, worship and study God's Word exclusively? Show me the prohibition to worship on Sunday.

Keeping Sabbath Biblically has nothing to do with your statement.

Yet most christians listen to what the pastor and doctrine of the church in that order, then the word of God or reading of the bible may come in.

Not in my congregation. Perhaps your assumptions are forged more in self-righteousness than humility? Only you can answer that one I say this with all kindness - because I have been there and done that myself, I can relate. I tell you that path is lonely, destructive and does not fulfill the purpose of God's Law. It hurt me more than anything when I believed I was obeying God's written Law, but in reality I was among the worse transgressors of He weightiest Law, and I pray often for forgiveness for anyone I had hurt or sullied God's Holy name with my self-righteousness, judgemental attitude and distain for other God-fearing and God-loving believers. Many here can testify that what I say is true. .

I deal with them is just as as I would a ROMAN Catholic, Protestant and the Orthodox I would tell either one show me your doctrine or denomination in the word of God?

Tell me, what title do you attach to your faith? Please let us know.

[keck553]

who is right?

what does the word of God say concerning the day of worship?

nothing .

[ozell]

Hey Ozell....Please remember that this is a Protestant message board and we expect our wishes to be followed. If you need a reminder proceed to the rules page to familiarize yourself what this board is about

Thank You

understood.

thankyou for the reminder, I forgot.

i will head over there

[Servant89]

Mainstream Christians congregate on Sunday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday..whatever. Where does Torah perscribe corporate gathering on Shabbat to gather, worship and study God's Word exclusively? Show me the prohibition to worship on Sunday.

Keeping Sabbath Biblically has nothing to do with your statement.



Not in my congregation. Perhaps your assumptions are forged more in self-righteousness than humility? Only you can answer that one I say this with all kindness - because I have been there and done that myself, I can relate. I tell you that path is lonely, destructive and does not fulfill the purpose of God's Law. It hurt me more than anything when I believed I was obeying God's written Law, but in reality I was among the worse transgressors of He weightiest Law, and I pray often for forgiveness for anyone I had hurt or sullied God's Holy name with my self-righteousness, judgemental attitude and distain for other God-fearing and God-loving believers. Many here can testify that what I say is true. .



Tell me, what title do you attach to your faith? Please let us know.

That was great. Thank you !

Peace

[RollTide21]

what is Christ in the spirit? how do we know we have it? These people did not know they did not have it until the last day of Judgement. This is future so these people had to wait to the last day to find out they lacked Jesus spirit?

it seems to me these people were decieved.

Matthew 7

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

You don't know whether or not you have the Holy Spirit? These people didn't know anything about the Holy Spirit. They might have thought highly of themselves, but they certainly didn't know the Spirit. They were false prophets with bad intentions, according to Jesus.

[cetrex]

I follow Baptist Doctrines.

But I think as long as it's Christian and repentance is priority number one, it's all good.

[Clockstopper]

[QUOTE=Amos_with_goats;2672584]My desire is that my doctrine is scripture. I would say the 'whole counsel' but that might cause an argument...

I want to read from the Word, not Calvin, Luther, John Paul II, or Tim LaHaye.... or any other man.*QUOTE]

But I'll bet you have.

[nzyr]

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

(Ephesians 4:4-6)

[Firstfruits]

who is right?

what does the word of God say concerning the day of worship?

According to what God commanded through Moses this is Gods commandment.

Ex 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Do you believe Moses?

Firstfruits

[BadDog]

The pillar and foundation of the truth is the Church so says St. Paul. The way we test the spirit of truth from the spirit of error is whether or not that teaching agrees with that Church so says St. John.

One of the marks that identify which Church is this Church founded by Jesus Christ on earth for the salvation of souls is that by neseccity it must be 2,000 years old and traceable back to the very moment 2,000 years ago when He commissioned the Apostles to teach by His authority to all nations in His name and to who Jesus himself promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead into all truth and who promised to those very apostles that He himself would be with them always till the end of the age.

One_lost_coin,

Well, I need to see scripture that supports these claims. I also need to see historical evidence that you can trace the Roman Catholic Church back to the original Apostles.

I have seen neither.

Thx,

BD

[Firstfruits]

One_lost_coin,

Well, I need to see scripture that supports these claims. I also need to see historical evidence that you can trace the Roman Catholic Church back to the original Apostles.

I have seen neither.

Thx,

BD

Depending on what the apostles taught, and if what they taught has continued until now, we would then know if doctrine was contrary to the apostles doctrine.

Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Firstfruits